We all know that he's very fond of Harbaugh. In case you didn't see it, today's comments go much farther than what he's said since the story broke. I recommend watching it on YouTube once it's available. But here are a few notes that I was able to pull from it... in so many words.

The NCAA created this rule in the mid-90s because lower-tier programs didn't have the resources to send staffers to games and record them. There's a reason it's still allowed in high school football; you only have to drive across town and purchase a ticket for $6 to attend the game! Back in the mid-90s, there were no smartphones, just lunky camcorders and video equipment that you could see from space. Today, everyone has a smartphone that can zoom in on a team's sideline from anywhere in a stadium. There are also weeks if not months of game film to sift through. And let's face it; how many people who are jumping on Michigan today knew about this rule in the first place??!!! He added that if this was any other team, we wouldn't be hearing about it. He compared it to deflate-gate. The high school comment was mine. It just made sense when you consider the reason (and that's Colin's opinion) why the rule was implemented in the first place. Sure, breaking into someone's practice and filming it is well beyond the pale. But sitting in the stands alongside thousands of people recording a game? You don't think other teams are doing this?

Here is where the wall of noise is shading everything. IF the rule was violated we have NO IDEA what that means in regards to punishment because the rule was NOT put in to prevent cheating. We all know that. It was just for cost saving. AND we also know that its pretty clear that EVERY big time program steals signs in one fashion or another - so are we to believe that while EVERYONE is stealing signs and as a result most programs change their signs frequently ( like OSU last year before playing us ) that UM having a low level staffer who may have sent “friends” to other games to gather “intel” suddenly makes UM a behemoth and thats why they have been successful ??? HELL NO. thats ridiculous. It's also what OSU etc would of course be screaming. Hell we would too if shoe was on other foot. Anything to diminish our accomplishments and maybe just maybe we could get punished for it. And maybe a small chance we could not be allowed to play in CFP or Big Ten championship ??? ( doubtful ) or MAYBE it messes with our heads so we are overly cautious vs PSU and OSU and its just enough to tip the balance ???? sure. We would all be screaming the same thing BUT if any reasonable thinker thinks the NCAA or the Big Ten is gonna treat this like the Black Sox scandal and throw the book at UM I believe they are delusional. Because unless they can prove that multiple COACHES knew about this and condoned it its likely that it will EVENTUALLY be treated as Level 2 or 3 violation and no games will be lost and no post season bans will occur. Bottom Line: we have lost the plot and sadly so have several writers like Stewie Mandel and Pat Forde. and I feel awful for our kids. BUT I also think this will stoke their fire even higher

Woke up and saw a notification that BARRY ODOM followed me on Twitter/X 🤣🤣🤣

Wonder if it has anything to do with this? https://michigan.forums.rivals.com/threads/who-turned-michigan-in.353798/

He hasn't sent me a nasty message or anything so I will keep you all posted. Just wanted to share.

My major takeaway from reading all of this is that there are still far too many questions than answers, even if the picture is slightly a little less murky than it was last week.

My major questions after reading this:

- Who funded the tickets? There is no way a school employee making $55k a year is paying for all of these games out of pocket. Is there credible evidence to suggest a paper trail where he is being reimbursed? If so, is anyone employed by the program reimbursing him? If it's someone outside of the program, you might have an easier chance to explain it away.
- Has Stalions been to any games himself or are the people he transferred tickets to involved with the program? If no to either of those questions, then now you're arguing against an ancient rule that doesn't have any set punishments with so many loopholes you can punch through. The rule is incredibly vague and if someone was taping that wasn't involved with the program the *technicality* suggests they're not doing anything against the rules.

Now, obviously, if there's a direct link to anyone higher up in the program (thinking Jim Harbaugh) then you're in deep trouble, you can't defend that. For now, it sure seems like it's still a lone-wolf operation

However, with the NCAA rules now stating that a head coach cannot use ignorance or being unaware as an excuse, all violations are assumed that the head coach was aware. The further evidence will show whether anyone else is linked or Stalions acted alone.

No matter how you spin this, it's a terrible look for the program. On top of that, it's incredibly stupid that any ticket sales can be linked back to you in the first place. To be so brazen in you're thinking is moronic, to say the least. Being a moron isn't an NCAA violation, though.

I think the big thing that still hasn't come out yet is what the video evidence shows. If he's not there and the person in his place has no link to the program, then that makes it somewhat better. Doesn't mean it's good. The next one is the obvious paper trail of funding for tickets.

If both of those can be answered with a logical response, then I think Michigan will be somewhat in the clear.

I am not going to rush to judgment just yet and say the program is "screwed" for the future. We still have to let some further facts come out.

I don't know what a suitable punishment is because we still truly don't know how deep this goes yet, which I suspect we will know soon enough.

Are ofcourse screaming about the sign stealing but yet when I ask if they can explain how it helped up beat their asses the last 2 years, the answer I keep getting is "obviously it helps somehow otherwise they wouldn't have been doing it!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 classic buckeyes

I have been working hard behind the scenes to try and get an idea of who turned Michigan in to the NCAA for sign stealing and all that.

The smoke that UNLV turned Michigan in appears to have something behind it and I am working on fully confirming these claims.

I got this from someone with connections to UNLV’s athletic department: “He is a bit arrogant” but, at the same time, said that he finds it hard to believe it was UNLV that turned them in.

I got some other not-so-nice words about Barry Odom from a third party as well but can’t share the contents about that message as it would have to be heavily edited.

The thought is that Ohio State followed it up with piling on as well. I don’t know about the rumors that Ryan Day hired a PI to investigate, I can’t authenticate those claims.

Will continue to add more when I get it. Including more opinions about whether UNLV is at play.

Sounds like he's concerned.

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I would give jh his contract extension now. It would show university support of jh and the finger to ncaa

No one is surprised we're 7-0. All offseason I told anyone who would listen that I thought we were so good that something would have to go very wrong for us to lose a game. We had top level talent, with depth at so many positions that we were borderline injury-proof.

The results have been as expected thus far. But how they have been achieved has been a little surprising in spots. Not every element of the team has developed as we expected it to.

How It Started: We projected to have depth of competence at WR, but perhaps no true #1.

How It's Going: We have a breakout WR1 in Wilson, but no one has really stepped up as an impactful WR3/WR4 yet.

Clemons hasn't emerged as many expected, O'Leary has been hurt for much of the season, Moore & English have gotten on the field but not done much, Morris & Morgan have flashed and look promising for next season. Part of the reason for no one truly stepping up behind the seniors is that McCarthy is only averaging 18+ pass attempts per game, so there are only so many balls to go around. (More on this below.)

How It Started: A fully-actualized Donovan Edwards, after his 3-game star turn to close out last season, said he was going to master the receiving game as well and essentially be Christian McCaffrey redux, assuming an equal partnership with Blake Corum in the backfield. The two even spoke of sharing the Heisman.

How It's Going: After leading the nation in yards per carry last season, Edwards is averaging a downright poor 3.3 yards per carry on his 60 carries on the season.

Edwards' anemic production looks even more troubling because Corum, at 5.7 YPC, is chewing up yards at very close to his efficiency from his spectacular 2022 season, while Kalel Mullings' light is going on as he has emerged for 6.4 YPC on his 23. Even Benjamin Hall (which I think might be the name of the new freshman dorm that just broke ground on the former Elbel Field) looks better running the football than Edwards. Where it looked like fait accompli that The Don would be a made man and NFL-bound after this season, he has performed more like Fredo and it's hard to see him as draftable at this point barring a major second-half resurgence. It's easier to envision him losing RB2 carries to Mullings right now than it is to see him in the pros next season. Next year's depth chart along with his looking neither instinctive nor rugged running the football, might point towards his future being at WR, not RB.

How It Started: Reports from numerous players and recruits in the spring and summer suggested that this year we would "sling the ball around more" compared to the last two run-heavy seasons, finally having a true star QB locked and loaded. Harbaugh himself said his intention was a 50/50 balance.

How It's Going: After very close to a 50/50 balance during the nonconference slate, since Jim's return for conference play the offense is back to exactly 65% run/35% pass. The Harbaugh restrictor plate is back on the aerial attack.

Many believed that JJ was the QB to whom Harbaugh would finally entrust with the keys to his offense. We have now learned once and for all that he is simply not wired for that. A Harbaugh offense will never be QB-centric. That is simply not who he is, philosophically. If it 's not JJ, this year, it won't be anyone. McCarthy's pass attempts, instead of going up to be closer to most other top QB's, have actually dropped substantially this season, from 24 to 18 per game. It's worth noting that being a run-heavy attack is only one variable here: the new clock rules have shortened games, we are by design playing at close to the slowest pace in the nation on top of it, we have been so dominant that we are often in a "run" game state, and our level of dominance over weak opposition has resulted in the starters never playing 4 quarters. But most of the other top QB's around the country throw the ball a lot more - in some cases nearly twice as often - as Michigan.

JJ is performing at an elite efficiency level and continues to make eye-popping throws while on-schedule with Fran Tarkenton-level improvisation off-schedule. But this is not a quarterback's offense. McCarthy is a man in full, playing the QB position at the highest level we have ever seen in a winged helmet. But he's a Ferrari that we do not drive over 55, so his numbers do not and probably will not fully reflect his excellence.

How It Started: We have an embarrassment of riches with 12-13 deep on an offensive line that is headed for a third straight Joe Moore Award.

How It's Going: The depth is there and the starters have generally performed well, but the OL doesn't look quite as dominant as the last two seasons.

Corum is gaining yards at his old rate, others (besides Edwards) are chipping in, and JJ is being sacked only once per game. The offense has gained the highest percentage of possible yards and points in the country; Tommy Doman may need to bring a good book to read on the sidelines a'la Jon Moxon soon.

However... the level of competition has been soft and the eye test says they're not as good as last season. Keegan and Barnhart have lost too many reps, and Nugent gets pushed back into the backfield with much greater frequency than Oluwatimi did last year.

The line is good. Just not sure they're great.

How It Started: The defense was projected to be pretty good, but with a few questions that needed to be answered.

How It's Going: With the exception of a couple of mistakes, the defense has been virtually impenetrable, at least to the level of competition they have faced.

While we haven't seen gaudy sack numbers, the pass rush has been consistent. Run defense has been a wall. While we don't know how he'll hold up against the better teams, Josh Wallace has been plenty good at CB2 - which has been needed since the younger guys have yet to step up. And after it looked like he might be a future linebacker at first, despite the occasional error you expect from a young safety, Keon Sabb has become a full rotation piece and looks like a future star. We rotate a full 2-deep at every position except corner with almost no drop-off in quality. Over quarters 1-3 this season, the defense has scored as many touchdowns as they have conceded through 7 games.

Stiffer tests await, but to this point they have been ruthless and substantially better than expected coming into the season.

Pretty pathetic.

Maybe Michigan should have been pushing all their knowledge of ohio state paying players instead of letting them have the advantage for 20 years.

Thinking about starting a new YouTube page. Going to all Buckeye games and recording all their signs and posting them on YouTube. Suck it Ryan Day.

First we have Matt Weiss shirking his recruiting duties and then whatever it was with the computers.

Jim tries to hire Schemy, who it turns out is basically a Proud Boy.

Then the Stalions embarrassment to the program.

Now another staffer who was clearly a lowlife .

Quite a 2023 off the field.

Between all this and recruiting that is lagging behind where it should be, a picture is coming into focus of a head coach who is on top of the day to day football stuff… and not much else.

I think the best outcome here is: win the national championship, Jim declares Mission Accomplished and rides off into the sunset for San Diego or Chicago, and Sherrone Moore takes the reins.

>very post I made today October 23. 2023 is BS and I admit my being completely wrong about everything.
Including anything I mentioned allegedly.

Technology, accusations, opinions, etc have all been wrong and I apologize. The ideas of fraud I have mentioned has been proven to be false, my statements were premature and as strong opinions. I am saddened for all involved in every post I've mentioned. So much so I'd like to remove wrongly stated posts from this board. This includes threads and additional posts.

Thank You.

I find it hard to believe Conner didn't have this on thumb drives and not his computer hard drive.

Sucks this is happening in a bye week when there is more down time.

… my mouth a little. Trying to remain calm.

Read some of these quotes.

“Michigan, the winningest program in college football history, can’t line up with an opponent and play fair and square for three hours on Saturday? Really?”

“Were the Wolverines back-to-back Big Ten champions in 2021 and ’22 (https://www.si.com/college/purdue/f...22-in-2022-big-ten-championship-football-game) due to talent and attitude and teamwork? Or because of spying and cutting corners? Were those big second halves against Ohio State the past two seasons the result of exerting their will, or did they gain some in-game intelligence via nefarious means? Wh
en a program rises from 21–11 from 2018 to ’20 to 32–3 from ’21 to ’23, maybe it’s not all simply the result of hard work and clean living.

Understand this …. These words are written in SI after just leaked accusations. No proof. At all. And yet our program. Our university is being dragged through the mud and warde is just all like “we will cooperate”. How can you not fight for the reputation of your school ????

This is truly an existential threat and IF michigan did nothing more then any other big time school does they must go scorched earth. Their literal reputation is at stake

Never forget he and Forde ran with the Manti Te’o story and was taken for a ride. Never seen the red flags. Also there is a poster on MGoBlog who’s been accurate and Thamel took his story and ran with it. Just watch how this works.