USC might be like Texas 2.0.

Just being real, this was an evenly played game.

There's no sugarcoating it. This isn't trolling.

Penalties galore. INTs galore.

Great rushing attack, but debatable how that will work against a Power team.

That looked like a funeral at the end.

No one was even remotely happy.

If Moore does not use the second half finding a QB alternative to Warren to save our season and to not get our asses handed against USC next week, its coaching malpractice and I’ll seriously question if he knows what the f he is doing.

This is Arkansas State and the lack of QB competence is scary.

Boy, my opinion on USC is quickly changing considering how poorly LSU is playing right now.

Down 10-0 to South Carolina and just had a punt blocked. YIKES

Davis Warren was 11 of 14 on the day. Those three incompletions? The interceptions.

Don't think I've ever seen anything like that.

… points did we leave on the field because of mistakes, lack of discipline, penalties, turnovers?

We should have at least doubled our points scored and held Arkansas State to the 3 they got in 1Q. It should have been a 6-7 touchdown win.

it looks like what we can expect from the QB room migbt be a steeper uphill climb than we thought. But you all saw the same game I did.

We shouldn't forget the pleasure our team provided us in the last 3 years. And not forget that Michigan’s record is 41-4 since the 2022 season. Has any college team played better?

....

….you can not accept that Michigan lost 22 CONTRIBUTORS off the 2023 team

• 18 are on NFL rosters
• 13 drafted
• The #9 overall pick was the starting QB
• he HC, DC, DL, LB, RB, ST and secondary coaches
• The entire Oline
• Your best safety and field general on defense to injury

And you say these are all excuses

• You say the HC Sherrone Moore is Juwan 2.0
• You neglect to realize Sherrone worked his way up from TE coach to Oline coach OC and HC

• you want to fire the HC and his entire staff or any combination after 2 damn games
• you predict 7-5 6-6 or 5-7 after 2 DAMN GAMES after going 41-3 over 3 years

I stayed with this site after trying the new site’s $1 yearly subscription which I cancelled after 2 months. I am enough of a fan that I talked my wife into joining. I have developed some nice relationships with members on here. One of which I am at odds more often than I agree with and that is @Minocm who my wife and I sat with for the NC game. We have fought like cats and dogs, but we don’t bash each other or attack players and coaches.

I am the eternal optimist because of what I’ve seen in my lifetime and found that things can always be worse. I know things are always not sunshine and lollipops, but neither are things so ridiculously bad. The negative over reaction on here is flat out absurd. What’s worse is what a friend calls “concern trolling” where people drum up concern just to see how much they can rile people up. These are the posters that need to go. It’s one thing to have legitimate concern. It’s another to play with people’s feelings for sport or to keep their narrative going while they sit back and nudge their online buddies in the ribs with a watch this type attitude. These are the people who have beaten NIL, Warde and Harbaugh leaving to death. It’s their go to. Not to mention burger-gate (thank God that’s done), and sign-gate. They get bored and decide to just stir shit up for sport. It’s uncalled for.

Being a Michigan fan can be tough at times, but we all need to keep things in perspective. Last week @Minocm lost his nephew. Many others on here have lost loved ones and have had other tragedies affect their lives. I would challenge each member to think before you become a key board commando and start attacking others on this site, the coaches, or the players. It’s childish and counterproductive to the growth of this site.

My wife and I will and we assume most other fans on here will remain die hard unconditional fans until we no longer can.



GO BLUE

So when does Michigan start getting off of their high horse and dish out the money for elite talent?
It's very clear we need elite talent to make up for the lack of coaching skills. Maybe when Moore gets a few years of experience under his belt he'll get a staff that are great developers. Until then, Michigan needs elite talent to cover up the coaching.

Nebraska's 5* true freshman QB is better than anyone in our QB room. Michigan definitely needs to do whatever it takes to flip Bryce Underwood before signing day.

Dennis' live postgame show will be tomorrow morning instead of immediately after the game.

Hail to the Podcast will be live tomorrow PM.

listening to Coach Moore the past few weeks and reading between the lines I think the "we're just one player away" guy he's searching for is a deep ball threat and I believe the guy he has in mind is Fredrick. so we'll see. with Tyler Morris questionable and us desperately looking for a playmaker I'm thinking they give him another chance to make big plays.

This is a classic.

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I hope he's doing well.

For starters a ho hum result that isn't a blowout will depend on how it happened. Game over by the third quarter is good, a game that is within a TD margin in the fourth with a late TD is a win, but maybe not the performance that elicits more development.

1. Run for 125+ yards
2. Get some type of passing game rhythm
3. Back to basics on defense, hoping to see more organization.

I apologize if it’s come off as slow or I have been grumpier than usual all week, have been dealing with the ‘vid and it’s knocked me on my ASS!

Still waiting to start feeling better but it’s full speed ahead!

It's no wonder Howard transferred to OSU... not only does he get paid, he may have been watching games from the bench.

Avery Johnson, a RS freshman, looked tremendous at QB. Granted AZ's D is not very good, but this kid has a strong and accurate arm and wheels. he didn't run as a first option, but when the pocket broke down, he outran a number of defenders. He's going to be an issue for B12 defenses.

Former Wolverine Jerry Diorio joins the show and tells us what he is looking for from UM in tomorrows game against ASU. Jerry also goes thru the film of last weeks game against Texas.
Breakdown
Open 00:00-4:27
What to look for tomorrow 4:28-25:04
Predictions 25:05-30:16
Film 1st half 30:17-121:58
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Indiana, after over 60+ years, finally gets to play a game in the Rose Bowl...

Must be something in the water

After doing some observation and reflection, I am going to be making an addition to our rules and regulations to expand on some trolling rules as we look to make this place more enjoyable.

Concern trolling.

By definition: “Someone who posts to an internet forum or newsgroup, claiming to share its goals while deliberately working against those goals, typically, by claiming "concern" about group plans to engage in productive activity, urging members instead to attempt some activity that would damage the group's credibility, or alternatively to give up on group projects entirely”

To be frank, the level of some folks have gone to after one loss in what feels like forever is embarrassing.

I’m pretty open about the moderation we do here. We’re supposed to be adults here and I don’t want to treat a bunch of adults as children by sifting through everything that is posted.

I am not saying that criticizing or showing genuine concern is not allowed, we aren’t going to be just blowing sunshine every day. However, incessant negativity, insults of the staff and players and just plain ridiculous takes do not keep the conversation going and do not create a place where people can talk freely.

I’ve been pretty lenient in letting things go as some folks have filled their diapers online, even allowing repeat offenders to come back. Not anymore.

I am going to work on the wording of the addition in the next few days or so but consider this a public warning that we’re not going to put up with derailing thread after thread with incessant concern trolling and overly negative content. I’m sure you can find a place that will welcome your concerns if you cannot handle a simple request from us here.

I listen to the people and the (rightful) complaints have increased as of late.

I want this place to be the best it can be, I want it to be welcoming and a place where we can debate and discuss respectfully. If that means I have to hurt business by weeding out a VERY small, but loud, contingent of folks, so be it.

I think this place is awesome and a small number of folks don’t represent the entire atmosphere but when you have people actively avoiding sharing an opinion because they’re not having fun or others are bringing down the fun, that’s where I have a problem. I feel the same way myself some days.

Thanks for reading this diatribe and I appreciate your cooperation.

Lucas Reimink and Dennis Fithian pick UM, MSU & the Lions every week. The duo also give three best bets of the week.

Reimink's three best bets are: Alabama -16.5, Missouri -16.5 & LSU -6.5

Fithian's three best bets are: Kansas State -7. BC +16 & UGA -23.5

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