Paramus Catholic coach Chris Partridge will get us back into NJ.

[wolverines74]

The Record of North Jersey says former Paramus Catholic coach Chris Partridge will join Jim Harbaugh's staff. He will be in charge of Recruiting , a job Rutgers was trying to offer ,but fell through. Going back to Bo's time we had connection in NJ, NYC and southern NY as well as Phillie and Delaware. 1 guy had that area and we recruited solid players from there.
Good Luck God Bless and Go Blue
"74

 

[Mroad]

Supposedly he has a strong relationship with one of the top prospects in the 2016 class....I believe the top rated defensive lineman. This appears to be great news for our east coast recruiting.

 

[GoBlue_since1985]

Originally posted by Mroad:

Supposedly he has a strong relationship with one of the top prospects in the 2016 class....I believe the top rated defensive lineman. This appears to be great news for our east coast recruiting.

Are you talking about Rashan Gary? Cause if so that's awesome.

 

[RUBOB72]

Be careful what you wish for ...what may seem as a great thing could very well prove otherwise...time will tell if this becomes a B1G success story...he attempted to manipulate by driving his $$$$ up using Rutgers as his bargaining chip...many in New Jersey aren't keen on Partridge from an ethical sense.

 

[Mroad]

He is supposedly tight with Rashan Gary who is one of the top rated players in the country for 2016 and has close ties on the east coast. Time will tell but he has potential to bring some great players to Michigan.

 

[jefro6]

Originally posted by wolverines74:

The Record of North Jersey says former Paramus Catholic coach Chris Partridge will join Jim Harbaugh's staff. He will be in charge of Recruiting , a job Rutgers was trying to offer ,but fell through. Going back to Bo's time we had connection in NJ, NYC and southern NY as well as Phillie and Delaware. 1 guy had that area and we recruited solid players from there.
Good Luck God Bless and Go Blue
"74

You might want to check the details. Why did the Rutgers job "fall through"? Rutgers backed off when they realized that every other coach in the state hates Partridge.

 

[Dunc1]

I think he's a good choice for Michigan. If he brings in Rashan Gary, that will attract other recruits to follow. Obviously he needs to bring in Gary. I bet Rutgers pulled back their offer because he told them he was going to accept a Michigan offer instead. The guy coached a top program sending 40 players to Division 1 football. Rutgers has offered maybe 5 guys from the current team. This is going to hurt Rutgers. He ticked off some other coaches in his county, but really that's not a surprise from a winner. Coaches around Pittsburgh did not like the PSU coach handling that area because we won so much and was accused of recruiting, but he sure has been bringing in the Pittsburgh kids. As long as he gets Gary to get things to steamroll, this is a good move. He doesn't seem like the type of guy that will stick around for many years; this is a stepping stone for him.

 

[Dunc1]

Also, maybe Gary said he did not want to play for Rutgers.

 

[Blue_note]

so you're saying they're butt hurt like PSU fans? ****

GBA.

 

[goblue31602]

You wanna know why they hate him? They're sore losers. He out-recruited them for players, (and yes, catholic schools across the country recruit kids even though they're not supposed to), and turned a loser into a winner. Rutgers can't afford to not recruit much in NJ, Michigan can, and it's worth it to get a guy who works as hard as Partridge.

 

[goblue31602]

Agreed, and ticking off a few coaches in NJ isn't a big deal for Michigan, it's a huge deal for Rutgers.

 

[scarlet_fort]

Its not so much about the amount(and there's a decent amount) its about which coaches do and its all of the big dog in the state most notably BC and DB. It will be interesting to see how they'll interact with the UofM coaches from these schools and to see how PC does after loosing Partridge



This post was edited on 2/2 11:12 AM by scarlet_fort

 

[goblue31602]

The thing is, we typically pull 0-1 guys out of NJ on any given year. Rutgers gets 6-7, and I'm sure they're in on way more than that. A few coaches mad that he turned a loser into a winner (and got some guys to come to PC over the big dogs) isn't near as big a deal at Michigan as it would have been at Rutgers.

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:
Its not so much about the amount(and there's a decent amount) its about which coaches do and its all of the big dog in the state most notably BC and DB. It will be interesting to see how they'll interact with the UofM coaches from these schools and to see how PC does after loosing Partridge



This post was edited on 2/2 11:12 AM by scarlet_fort

 

[jefro6]

Originally posted by goblue31602:
You wanna know why they hate him? They're sore losers. He out-recruited them for players, (and yes, catholic schools across the country recruit kids even though they're not supposed to), and turned a loser into a winner. Rutgers can't afford to not recruit much in NJ, Michigan can, and it's worth it to get a guy who works as hard as Partridge.

True. The point you are missing is they still hate him. The competitive advantage is gone. High schools are not even supposed to recruit and most follow the rules. Those same coaches will steer players away from Partridge.

 

[scarlet_fort]

Originally posted by goblue31602:
The thing is, we typically pull 0-1 guys out of NJ on any given year. Rutgers gets 6-7, and I'm sure they're in on way more than that. A few coaches mad that he turned a loser into a winner (and got some guys to come to PC over the big dogs) isn't near as big a deal at Michigan as it would have been at Rutgers.

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:
Its not so much about the amount(and there's a decent amount) its about which coaches do and its all of the big dog in the state most notably BC and DB. It will be interesting to see how they'll interact with the UofM coaches from these schools and to see how PC does after loosing Partridge



This post was edited on 2/2 11:12 AM by scarlet_fort

Agreed it isn't as big of deal for you now. New Jersey is now inside the B1G footprint and I would assume they're trying to increase their presence compared to years past(ex OSU). Don Bosco is going to have some major recruits coming out over the next few years(specifically 17/18). The big thing that got under the HS coaches skin isn't that he was going head to head against them for a kid from a relatively unknown HS/MS, its that he would try to recruit players current at DB, SPP, BC, etc. I'm not sure how often the big dogs do this to each other but it seems he did it a lot more then the rest at the very least.

 

[goblue31602]

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:

Originally posted by goblue31602:
The thing is, we typically pull 0-1 guys out of NJ on any given year. Rutgers gets 6-7, and I'm sure they're in on way more than that. A few coaches mad that he turned a loser into a winner (and got some guys to come to PC over the big dogs) isn't near as big a deal at Michigan as it would have been at Rutgers.

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:
Its not so much about the amount(and there's a decent amount) its about which coaches do and its all of the big dog in the state most notably BC and DB. It will be interesting to see how they'll interact with the UofM coaches from these schools and to see how PC does after loosing Partridge



This post was edited on 2/2 11:12 AM by scarlet_fort

Agreed it isn't as big of deal for you now. New Jersey is now inside the B1G footprint and I would assume they're trying to increase their presence compared to years past(ex OSU). Don Bosco is going to have some major recruits coming out over the next few years(specifically 17/18). The big thing that got under the HS coaches skin isn't that he was going head to head against them for a kid from a relatively unknown HS/MS, its that he would try to recruit players current at DB, SPP, BC, etc. I'm not sure how often the big dogs do this to each other but it seems he did it a lot more then the rest at the very least.

Well, that part of his job doesn't really translate to college. He won't be recruiting current college kids to transfer, so seeing as he was successful at the recruiting part, we should be good to go, as that's the part of his job that DOES translate.

If you ask me, the Don Bosco coach got upset he took kids like Jabrill Peppers and then beat DB with him. DB was used to being the bully, and they got upset when they weren't.

 

[goblue31602]

I'm not missing that point, I know full well they hate him. You're missing my point. A few schools blackballing Michigan in the state of NJ is not a backbreaker, by any stretch of the imagination.

I know high schools aren't supposed to recruit, but I completely disagree that most follow the rules (Catholic schools are notorious for recruiting). I personally know of recruiting stories in the Cincy area with schools like St X and Moeller. Partridge beat Don Bosco at their own game and they got pissed.

Rutgers gets 6-7 commits a year from NJ high schools, and I'm sure they're in on many more. Michigan goes after MAYBE 1-2 NJ guys every year, sometimes they don't go after any. It won't affect Michigan's classes in nearly the same way it would affect Rutgers' classes.

 

[scarlet_fort]

Originally posted by goblue31602:
I'm not missing that point, I know full well they hate him. You're missing my point. A few schools blackballing Michigan in the state of NJ is not a backbreaker, by any stretch of the imagination.

I know high schools aren't supposed to recruit, but I completely disagree that most follow the rules (Catholic schools are notorious for recruiting). I personally know of recruiting stories in the Cincy area with schools like St X and Moeller. Partridge beat Don Bosco at their own game and they got pissed.

Rutgers gets 6-7 commits a year from NJ high schools, and I'm sure they're in on many more. Michigan goes after MAYBE 1-2 NJ guys every year, sometimes they don't go after any. It won't affect Michigan's classes in nearly the same way it would affect Rutgers' classes.

I feel like you're missing my point, lets assume that mich is going continue to go after 3 recruits from NJ a year. Those 3 kids are most likely going to be from the schools I mentioned above. Do you not see the connection here? All catholic schools recruit, its seems partridge did it in a way that made these big name school hate him, where as those same school don't share the same vitriol towards each other as they did with Partridge. Sour grapes or tactics, the reason why isn't really important. I'm more interested to see if these coaches will actively block or steer kids away from Mich as they seemed to imply they would if he ended up at RU.

 

[goblue31602]

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:

Originally posted by goblue31602:
I'm not missing that point, I know full well they hate him. You're missing my point. A few schools blackballing Michigan in the state of NJ is not a backbreaker, by any stretch of the imagination.

I know high schools aren't supposed to recruit, but I completely disagree that most follow the rules (Catholic schools are notorious for recruiting). I personally know of recruiting stories in the Cincy area with schools like St X and Moeller. Partridge beat Don Bosco at their own game and they got pissed.

Rutgers gets 6-7 commits a year from NJ high schools, and I'm sure they're in on many more. Michigan goes after MAYBE 1-2 NJ guys every year, sometimes they don't go after any. It won't affect Michigan's classes in nearly the same way it would affect Rutgers' classes.

I feel like you're missing my point, lets assume that mich is going continue to go after 3 recruits from NJ a year. Those 3 kids are most likely going to be from the schools I mentioned above. Do you not see the connection here? All catholic schools recruit, its seems partridge did it in a way that made these big name school hate him, where as those same school don't share the same vitriol towards each other as they did with Partridge. Sour grapes or tactics, the reason why isn't really important. I'm more interested to see if these coaches will actively block or steer kids away from Mich as they seemed to imply they would if he ended up at RU.

Yeah I understand that, my point is we recruit nationally. Missing out on a couple NJ guys isn't a huge deal. We didn't sign anyone in NJ in the 4 classes combined before Peppers and JBB.

Partridge ticked them off because he out-recruited them and beat them on the field, which are two things that Paramus did NOT do before he was there. He also took kids from DB (like Peppers) which I'm sure REALLY ticked them off. But like I said, he beat them at their own game. They all do those things, they didn't like the new guy on the block who was better at it.

Either way, when a national program like Michigan comes calling, with the head coach we hired and the staff he has amassed, I'm thinking those recruits are going to listen, regardless of how much those coaches hate a guy on our recruiting staff. But, even if these coaches convince them to say no, a few missed opportunities in NJ won't impact Michigan that much, as we can land kids from anywhere in the country. In no way shape or form do we rely on NJ recruiting, like Rutgers does.

 

[scarlet_fort]

Originally posted by goblue31602:

Originally posted by scarlet_fort:

Originally posted by goblue31602:
I'm not missing that point, I know full well they hate him. You're missing my point. A few schools blackballing Michigan in the state of NJ is not a backbreaker, by any stretch of the imagination.

I know high schools aren't supposed to recruit, but I completely disagree that most follow the rules (Catholic schools are notorious for recruiting). I personally know of recruiting stories in the Cincy area with schools like St X and Moeller. Partridge beat Don Bosco at their own game and they got pissed.

Rutgers gets 6-7 commits a year from NJ high schools, and I'm sure they're in on many more. Michigan goes after MAYBE 1-2 NJ guys every year, sometimes they don't go after any. It won't affect Michigan's classes in nearly the same way it would affect Rutgers' classes.

I feel like you're missing my point, lets assume that mich is going continue to go after 3 recruits from NJ a year. Those 3 kids are most likely going to be from the schools I mentioned above. Do you not see the connection here? All catholic schools recruit, its seems partridge did it in a way that made these big name school hate him, where as those same school don't share the same vitriol towards each other as they did with Partridge. Sour grapes or tactics, the reason why isn't really important. I'm more interested to see if these coaches will actively block or steer kids away from Mich as they seemed to imply they would if he ended up at RU.

Yeah I understand that, my point is we recruit nationally. Missing out on a couple NJ guys isn't a huge deal. We didn't sign anyone in NJ in the 4 classes combined before Peppers and JBB.

Partridge ticked them off because he out-recruited them and beat them on the field, which are two things that Paramus did NOT do before he was there. He also took kids from DB (like Peppers) which I'm sure REALLY ticked them off. But like I said, he beat them at their own game. They all do those things, they didn't like the new guy on the block who was better at it.

Either way, when a national program like Michigan comes calling, with the head coach we hired and the staff he has amassed, I'm thinking those recruits are going to listen, regardless of how much those coaches hate a guy on our recruiting staff. But, even if these coaches convince them to say no, a few missed opportunities in NJ won't impact Michigan that much, as we can land kids from anywhere in the country. In no way shape or form do we rely on NJ recruiting, like Rutgers does.

oh ok, then yes I agree his negative impact is minimal, assuming Harb isn't trying to put an emphasis on NJ

 

[Mroad]

Unless the emphasis is Rashan Gary!

 

[Buxs4life]

I am not familiar with Partridge. Is he going to be in charge of national recruiting for Michigan, or is he the regional recruiter for the Northeast area of the US? Reading the posts about him, I think (if the posts are accurate) that if he did alienate some coaches in that area, they would steer their players away from Michigan. The other side of the coin is that he has the #1 defensive tackle in the nation at Paramus and Harbaugh saw how he could take advantage of getting him by hiring his former coach. Should be interesting in the coming years if Michigan wants to establish a strong presence in the NJ tristate area.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Originally posted by Buxs4life:

I am not familiar with Partridge. Is he going to be in charge of national recruiting for Michigan, or is he the regional recruiter for the Northeast area of the US? Reading the posts about him, I think (if the posts are accurate) that if he did alienate some coaches in that area, they would steer their players away from Michigan. The other side of the coin is that he has the #1 defensive tackle in the nation at Paramus and Harbaugh saw how he could take advantage of getting him by hiring his former coach. Should be interesting in the coming years if Michigan wants to establish a strong presence in the NJ tristate area.

I seriously doubt Harbaugh, with all of his resources, both financial and personnel, will take a HS coach and put him n charge of recruiting. More than likely Partridge will be an evaluator, which is the position for which Flood at RU was bringing him in. IIRC, NCAA bylaws allow for seven staff members to be on the road and be in contact with recruits. Partridge is a newby to the college-side of recruiting. My prediction is that Harbaugh has him on board to try to bring in Gary, and eventually Harbaugh will let Partridge go after he finds out that the other Catholic coaches will steer their players away from UM. Whatever Partridge did to be disliked in the state, it is pretty substantial, and it appears to be more than the other coaches being butt-hurt. Other coaches haven't steered their players away from RU because of anyone on RU's staff, but it because evident that that would change with Partridge. It is also being thrown about that Partridge overplayed his hand with Flood and was being disingenuous in his handling of his job offer, and that's why Flood pulled his offer. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Harbaugh is probably less likely to tolerate nonsense on his staff than Flood was.

 

[goblue31602]

I don't get why you guys think we live and die by NJ recruiting. Before Peppers and JBB, we went 4 consecutive classes without signing a NJ prospect. Partridge will have a national base for recruiting, he won't be confined to one part of the country. Some in the recruiting world call him a major "go-getter" and think he's a phenomenal hire.

 

[Westcoast]

I think Partridge was brought in to help bring in Rashan Gary. RU was going to do the same but various sources have said feedback from other NJ coaches was quite negative on adding Partridge to the RU staff. Supposedly that and Partridge's handling of his job offer caused Flood to pull the offer.

To Partridge's credit he took the high road and still steered one of his top players to RU just a couple weeks ago (Clayton) saying despite his job offer being pulled, Clayton's best fit was RU. So his reputation may be worse than his real personality.

 

[steelersrule125]

I am not coming here to troll but I saw this topic and I am well connected in the high school football scene in New Jersey. Rutgers did not hire Partridge because over a dozen head coaches from major programs in New Jersey, like Don Bosco Prep, Bergen Catholic, St. Joes, St Peters, DePaul, and others told Flood that if Partridge was on the staff they would never send a kid to RU again. Partridge was all set to sign with RU until RU pulled the offer. He has a connection with 5 star DT Rashan Gary but it isn't as strong as you might think. He will have connections at Paramus Catholic but that is it. A lot of coaches will not allow Michigan to recruit their schools now (this is directly from two coaches at two of the major high schools). The signing is worth it for Michigan if he brings Rashan Gary with him. However, I would put that at 25/75 at best. If not, Partridge will be out of Michigan in two years. If anything, this will make it harder for Michigan to recruit NJ as a whole, not that I think it will be a big recruiting area for you.