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Liar speaks about Weber; release him Liar

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Mike Weber felt betrayed.

On Thursday, a day after the Detroit Cass Tech running back announced he was leaving the Buckeyes to take a job with the Chicago Bears. Drayton was a key player in recruiting Weber and persuading him to pick OSU instead of Michigan.

"I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie," Weber tweeted.





OSU coach Urban Meyer, attending the Ohio High School Football Coaches Association's annual clinic at a Columbus hotel this morning, said that both he and Drayton have spoken to Weber about the situation.

"There was a talk," Meyer said, via 247sports.com. "I had a long conversation with him, and so did Stan. We've got to move forward."

As far as Drayton's move is concerned, Meyer said: "I don't know if it's official yet, but coach Drayton has been with me a long time. I guess the pro calendar is much different now. He has little girls, where recruiting takes its toll. Every weekend, you're gone. He gets job offers every year. Now we'll go and hire a great coach here."

Was it a callous move on Drayton's part? Did he know he was leaving while convincing Weber to make a difficult decision? Or does he have every right to take a better job?

Here are some media reactions to his move:

• Dan Murphy, espn.com: "It happens everywhere and every year. But how many of the 18-year-olds who signed letters of intent 24 hours earlier knew that it would be happening to them -- that the coaches who, in most cases, spent more than a year connecting with them and convincing them to commit to their teams would be gone the next day? … This isn't to make a monster of Drayton. It's not clear when he accepted the Bears' offer or what he told Weber and when. By all accounts in Columbus he's a good coach who genuinely cares for his players, and coaching is a business that forces cold decisions at times. It's the timing that seems dubious. The common practice among college coaches to wait until recruits have locked themselves into already one-sided contracts to announce their departures is a problem.Ohio State has the ability to release Weber from his letter of intent sans penalty, and that would be the right thing to do. Give him the best post-Drayton recruiting pitch you can muster (there is still plenty to sell for the Buckeyes), but give him the option to go elsewhere as well. Same goes for all of the other players who unwittingly signed on to play for a coach who was on his way out the door. The only other deterrent for the practice is losing the trust of your youngest players and the negative recruiting ammo it provides for rival teams in the future."

• Jonathan Smith, Columbus sports radio host (via Twitter): "Yeah, Stan Drayton leaving a day after he helped (sign) a star RB recruit seems more than a little shady. Whatever the reason, that looks bad. … If OSU lets him out of his LOI, I think that would be the right thing to do. If it were my kid, I would appreciate the gesture."

• Larry Brown, larrybrownsports.com: "The timing of the announcement is telling. The Buckeyes and Bears only announced the move after National Signing Day was completed, making it seem intentional. Ohio State would have risked losing a lot of commits had the news been announced prior to Signing Day. You also can't help but wonder if there were some broken promises made to recruits, too."


• Ben Axelrod, bleacherreport.com: "Fewer than 48 hours after Weber inked his national letter of intent, the position coach who he figured he'd be playing for and trusted throughout the recruitment process left for the NFL. That won't be lost on Jim Harbaugh, who will go head-to-head with Meyer on multiple occasions throughout the 2016 recruiting cycle and for the foreseeable future. Whether that will yield tangible results for Harbaugh remains to be seen, but in recruiting, every edge can make a difference. Which is why the timing of Drayton's departure doesn't seem coincidental, as it very well could have resulted in a different choice for Weber on Wednesday."


• Doug Lesmerises, Cleveland Plain Dealer, pointed out that Drayton has had some uncertain times at OSU, too, having already worked for three coaches there: "There are many other reasons to play at Ohio State. Just like there were many to play at Michigan. No player should pick his college based on just one factor. But don't pretend personal relationships aren't part of this.

"Drayton is a fine coach who made a good move for his career and his family. That he left the day after Signing Day says more about the current system and what's seen as normal behavior in the world of NCAA football than it does about this one coach. ...

"Drayton made his choice Thursday with a clear vision of what he was getting into. Weber thought he did that Wednesday as well. Now Weber may feel more like Drayton did three years ago. A little uncertain. A little worried."
 
Why does it matter? JH is not going to take him even if he was released given his comments that I want to be the only RB in this class BS - kid clearly is afraid of competition and wants things on a silver platter. Keep him Urban - use up a scholarship on a player that I personally don't think will amount to much if that is how he thinks.
 
I love it when people who get caught doing something shady ares all "it's time to move on." Yeah that would be great for you if everybody just dropped it, right? But you're not going to do the one thing that would actually be letting everybody move on. ..
 
Yeah. I think it's a moot point if he wants out so that he can go to Michigan. I think is just a question of whether he is so mad at osu that he can't get over it. Meyer is being that, given enough time, he will. He's also surely pretending that he didn't know what drayton's plans were.

This post was edited on 2/7 10:43 AM by TDFever
 
while its difficult to argue with your thoughts I hope future recruits

will remember Liar for what he is. Wilcher, too A total scumbag. Agree with you about JH probably not taking Weber after signing what appears to be a great running back kid
 
Re: while its difficult to argue with your thoughts I hope future recruits


the thing with weber is he was having a very difficult time making his decision. but in the end he choose osu. harbaugh could not have done anymore than he did. and i will never believe mich promised weber they would not recruit other rbs when osu continued to recruit even though they are already stacked at rb. that sounds like an osu spin to make it look like mich decieved weber also.

it sounds like weber may have went against his heart at the end but he is one recruit, wish him luck and move on.
 
And Harbaugh didn't lie to Weber when he said he would be the only RB in the class. Weber hasn't confirmed what was said between himself, Drayton, and Meyer but did confirm the Harbaugh statement about being the only RB in the class. Why isn't Wilcher (what a clown) commenting about Harbaugh's unethical behavior ? Hmmmm. I wonder why. Maybe because he's trying to direct his ballplayers to Michigan and still watching them defect to the enemy ?
 
Weber didn't commit to Michigan though....

If he did, you might have a point. If Weber's afraid of competition, UM doesn't want him anyways. Apparently, you're saying that UM should have waited on Weber and been left with no RBs if Weber decided to go elsewhere?
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Apparently, you're saying that UM should have waited on Weber and been left with no RBs if Weber decided to go elsewhere?

Kind of like the position OSU was in with Weber. He's their only RB in the class. We can spin this all day but again. if any high school star picks a school based on a positiion coach, well, all I can say is he's not getting the proper advice from the people he trusts and are close to. Position/assistant coaches leave all the time at a minute's notice. This same circumstance happens all over the country after signing day. OSU seems to lose a couple of assistants every year or two. Just the nature of the beast. The kid should be committing to the school first, then to the head coach secondly.
 
Why are you trying to convince me?

You should be trying to convince Weber that his position coach leaving shouldn't matter. He seems pretty upset about it.
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that is just stupid. ok mike you have said for weeks that nothing will change your mind about going to osu even though you where once commited to us, ok how about we tell you we will never recruit another rb while you are here and on top of that give you the starting spot for next year. since we are throwing out ridiculous statements go all the way.

no promise like that would ever have been made to weber from harbaugh. if it had been why would he have not just signed and ended it? dont believe something just so you can feel good that michigan also decieved him, it didnt happen.
 
Re: while its difficult to argue with your thoughts I hope future recruits

Arrowhead, this happens every year man...recruits will forget by next year. Tons of college teams do this so it's just the name of the game and schools and players/kids just have to adapt. I see more and more kids not signing their LOI until future dates moving forward.
 
The coach lied to him hours before he signed to play under him

you can enjoy spinning away my friend, but that's a bald-faced, no-holds-bar lie that makes your beloved school look like soul-less scum that will sell their wives to Beelzebub and toss their kids into Moloch's fire in order to get players and wins. If I sat in your seat as a fan of a proud school, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed. It's not a question of to whom he was committing, it's a question of a grown man lying repeatedly on the phone hours before he takes another job.

This post was edited on 2/7 9:51 PM by detroitjohn
 
Re: The coach lied to him hours before he signed to play under him

Ezekiel Elliot was his friend and smoothed things over and the new RB coach from ND reassured him and gained his favor. I think the kid's head high school coach is now satisfied. How could he not be? This kid may be the next great tOSU RB. How can he be unhappy?

This post was edited on 2/10 8:35 PM by Kbuckeye1
 
Re: I don't wish him luck on the football field....

Originally posted by BigHouse_00:
I don't wish him luck on the football field....[/URL]OSU is the enemy and I hope all of their players are failures.

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Every michigan fan should think like this.
 
Re: I don't wish him luck on the football field....

Buckeye fan who claims Harbaugh told Weber he was only RECRUITING one RB:

Delusion. Weber was COMMITTED to OSU what is Harbaugh suppose to do? If he wanted to play for UM Harbaugh likely doesn't take the other kid. That simple. He had weeks to switch he instead stayed with OSU. Harbaugh had to get a RB (atleast one) in this class. The logic that he should have not recruited another soul and waited on the OSU committed RB is absurd.
 
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