I hate them with a passion -- but they may be better than we want to believe. Losing out in the desert on the first week is bad but they were ahead and I think kind of melted in the heat. Losing to Northwestern looked bad but maybe the Wildcats are better than we thought. We were almost surprised by them but maybe shouldn't have been. Purdue was coming off a high versus OSU but still MSU shut them down. Maybe we are better than we thought and maybe MSU and NW are actually pretty good now.. Maybe MSU beats OSU in East Lansing because they are as good or better. I have to think Urban's issues are impacting that team. I think we beat MSU easily on a good neutral field but I think they are a good team, morally decrepit but good at football.