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Thoughts on ND's 2015 season

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What does nddecker think? Do they make a bowl this year? Do they have a QB? Have they learned how to play defense? Honestly, it will probably take a miracle for them to make a bowl game this year but if they do, BK should have his contract extended for the next 2 decades.

This post was edited on 3/7 1:00 PM by PharmD Blue
 
Wow...angry little guy, aren't you??

Do football discussion usually upset you this much?
And when they do, are your troll attempts usually this obvious and pathetic?

It's okay buddy, deep breathes...
 
Despite this being an obvious, and impressively pathetic, troll...it does give me a platform to discuss ND football over here

So, since you were kind enough to ask...

ND returns between 18-21 starters from the 2014 season, depending on how you determine a "starter"
Beyond that, ND gets back from injury and suspension another 2-3 starters who didn't take a single snap in 2014

ND suffered insane injuries during the second half of the 2014 season, ultimately losing 9 starters, 8 of them on defense...plus 7-8 more out of the second string (again, almost all on defense)

What this results in, is ND returning a TON of players with starting experience and legit talent



Consider:
Notre Dame is #2 in Phil Steele's "FBS Returning Starters for 2015" list
While not all are normally "starters", Notre Dame returns 32 players with at least one start (as follows)

QB -- Golson, Ziare
RB -- Folston
WR -- Fuller, Robinson, Brown, Prosise, and Carlisle
TE -- Luatua
OT -- Stanley, McGlinchey
OG/C -- Martin, Elmer

DE -- Rochell, Okwara, Trumbetti, Ishaq
DT -- Day, Jones, Cage
LB -- Jaylon, Schmidt, Grace, Morgan, Onwaulu
CB -- Russell, Luke, Butler
S -- Redfield, Shumate, Farley, Tranquill

That's 32 players who have at least 1 start under their belt already...and that's before even mentioning guys like Quenton Nelson (rFR OG, 5*), Durham Smythe (rSO TE, 4*), etc. who are expected to push for starting spots


So yes, the reality is Notre Dame is a verteran and talented team this year, at virtually every position
ND still has holes to fill, like any team, most notably at edge rusher, but this is the best roster Kelly has had at ND (most talented and complete)

Considering that unlike Michigan, ND was an 8 win team least year, with a bowl win over a Top25 LSU team...yes, they're poised for a big 2015 season
 
Hey nddecker1, How about a Sig Bet that Notre Dame doesn't beat Ohio State for 100 years? So we have 21 more to go.
 
Originally posted by nddecker1:
Despite this being an obvious, and impressively pathetic, troll...it does give me a platform to discuss ND football over here

So, since you were kind enough to ask...

ND returns between 18-21 starters from the 2014 season, depending on how you determine a "starter"
Beyond that, ND gets back from injury and suspension another 2-3 starters who didn't take a single snap in 2014

ND suffered insane injuries during the second half of the 2014 season, ultimately losing 9 starters, 8 of them on defense...plus 7-8 more out of the second string (again, almost all on defense)

What this results in, is ND returning a TON of players with starting experience and legit talent



Consider:
Notre Dame is #2 in Phil Steele's "FBS Returning Starters for 2015" list
While not all are normally "starters", Notre Dame returns 32 players with at least one start (as follows)

QB -- Golson, Ziare
RB -- Folston
WR -- Fuller, Robinson, Brown, Prosise, and Carlisle
TE -- Luatua
OT -- Stanley, McGlinchey
OG/C -- Martin, Elmer

DE -- Rochell, Okwara, Trumbetti, Ishaq
DT -- Day, Jones, Cage
LB -- Jaylon, Schmidt, Grace, Morgan, Onwaulu
CB -- Russell, Luke, Butler
S -- Redfield, Shumate, Farley, Tranquill

That's 32 players who have at least 1 start under their belt already...and that's before even mentioning guys like Quenton Nelson (rFR OG, 5*), Durham Smythe (rSO TE, 4*), etc. who are expected to push for starting spots


So yes, the reality is Notre Dame is a verteran and talented team this year, at virtually every position
ND still has holes to fill, like any team, most notably at edge rusher, but this is the best roster Kelly has had at ND (most talented and complete)

Considering that unlike Michigan, ND was an 8 win team least year, with a bowl win over a Top25 LSU team...yes, they're poised for a big 2015 season
Every thing you just posted is wrong. How did I do?
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Originally posted by tkirschner:

Originally posted by nddecker1:
Despite this being an obvious, and impressively pathetic, troll...it does give me a platform to discuss ND football over here

So, since you were kind enough to ask...

ND returns between 18-21 starters from the 2014 season, depending on how you determine a "starter"
Beyond that, ND gets back from injury and suspension another 2-3 starters who didn't take a single snap in 2014

ND suffered insane injuries during the second half of the 2014 season, ultimately losing 9 starters, 8 of them on defense...plus 7-8 more out of the second string (again, almost all on defense)

What this results in, is ND returning a TON of players with starting experience and legit talent



Consider:
Notre Dame is #2 in Phil Steele's "FBS Returning Starters for 2015" list
While not all are normally "starters", Notre Dame returns 32 players with at least one start (as follows)

QB -- Golson, Ziare
RB -- Folston
WR -- Fuller, Robinson, Brown, Prosise, and Carlisle
TE -- Luatua
OT -- Stanley, McGlinchey
OG/C -- Martin, Elmer

DE -- Rochell, Okwara, Trumbetti, Ishaq
DT -- Day, Jones, Cage
LB -- Jaylon, Schmidt, Grace, Morgan, Onwaulu
CB -- Russell, Luke, Butler
S -- Redfield, Shumate, Farley, Tranquill

That's 32 players who have at least 1 start under their belt already...and that's before even mentioning guys like Quenton Nelson (rFR OG, 5*), Durham Smythe (rSO TE, 4*), etc. who are expected to push for starting spots


So yes, the reality is Notre Dame is a verteran and talented team this year, at virtually every position
ND still has holes to fill, like any team, most notably at edge rusher, but this is the best roster Kelly has had at ND (most talented and complete)

Considering that unlike Michigan, ND was an 8 win team least year, with a bowl win over a Top25 LSU team...yes, they're poised for a big 2015 season
Every thing you just posted is wrong. How did I do?

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If you knew enough to go through a point-by-point analysis and show how you came to that conclusion, instead of the typical "we're great, you suck" comment that is an obvious sign of an underdeveloped mind........you would have done great

But as is, you outted yourself as an idiot
 
Originally posted by nddecker1:
Originally posted by tkirschner:

Originally posted by nddecker1:
Despite this being an obvious, and impressively pathetic, troll...it does give me a platform to discuss ND football over here

So, since you were kind enough to ask...

ND returns between 18-21 starters from the 2014 season, depending on how you determine a "starter"
Beyond that, ND gets back from injury and suspension another 2-3 starters who didn't take a single snap in 2014

ND suffered insane injuries during the second half of the 2014 season, ultimately losing 9 starters, 8 of them on defense...plus 7-8 more out of the second string (again, almost all on defense)

What this results in, is ND returning a TON of players with starting experience and legit talent



Consider:
Notre Dame is #2 in Phil Steele's "FBS Returning Starters for 2015" list
While not all are normally "starters", Notre Dame returns 32 players with at least one start (as follows)

QB -- Golson, Ziare
RB -- Folston
WR -- Fuller, Robinson, Brown, Prosise, and Carlisle
TE -- Luatua
OT -- Stanley, McGlinchey
OG/C -- Martin, Elmer

DE -- Rochell, Okwara, Trumbetti, Ishaq
DT -- Day, Jones, Cage
LB -- Jaylon, Schmidt, Grace, Morgan, Onwaulu
CB -- Russell, Luke, Butler
S -- Redfield, Shumate, Farley, Tranquill

That's 32 players who have at least 1 start under their belt already...and that's before even mentioning guys like Quenton Nelson (rFR OG, 5*), Durham Smythe (rSO TE, 4*), etc. who are expected to push for starting spots


So yes, the reality is Notre Dame is a verteran and talented team this year, at virtually every position
ND still has holes to fill, like any team, most notably at edge rusher, but this is the best roster Kelly has had at ND (most talented and complete)

Considering that unlike Michigan, ND was an 8 win team least year, with a bowl win over a Top25 LSU team...yes, they're poised for a big 2015 season
Every thing you just posted is wrong. How did I do?

Posted from Rivals Mobile
If you knew enough to go through a point-by-point analysis and show how you came to that conclusion, instead of the typical "we're great, you suck" comment that is an obvious sign of an underdeveloped mind........you would have done great

But as is, you outted yourself as an idiot
I'm an idiot. Could you tell me what "outted" means?
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Well the only problems is….all that returning "talent" pretty much stunk last year. No reason to look at it otherwise. Especially since BK is the coach, who has shown that he is one of the worst major college football coaches in the country. His teams steadily get worse throughout the year. Beating a terribly overrated LSU team is nothing to celebrate.

Realistically, 5, maybe 6, wins is the ceiling for the team. BK likely gets fired at the end of the season and ND can restart their "return to glory" yet again. Looking at it any other way is looking at the whole situation with homerism and through rose-colored glasses.

It is going to be a very, very long season in south bend. And unfortunately, this is the truth ND fans have to face.
 
So basically you expect us to copy and paste or type out (whatever it is you do) every single Stat and figure from Google that we can find to base a discussion on,....so you can say how wrong it is? Gotcha sport. Kick rocks.
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Originally posted by PharmD Blue:
Well the only problems is….all that returning "talent" pretty much stunk last year. No reason to look at it otherwise. Especially since BK is the coach, who has shown that he is one of the worst major college football coaches in the country. His teams steadily get worse throughout the year. Beating a terribly overrated LSU team is nothing to celebrate.

Realistically, 5, maybe 6, wins is the ceiling for the team. BK likely gets fired at the end of the season and ND can restart their "return to glory" yet again. Looking at it any other way is looking at the whole situation with homerism and through rose-colored glasses.

It is going to be a very, very long season in south bend. And unfortunately, this is the truth ND fans have to face.
See, you continue to not be able to go point-by-point and provide analysis

ND returns 3,200 receiving yards...almost all from WRs who were underclassmen in 2014....so how do you see their WR's as bad? etc. etc. etc.

And as poorly as the 2014 season was, ND was an 8 win team that returns almost everything it had in 2014 plus a lot more
And Kelly has never won fewer than 8 games at ND, while winning as many as 12

So I'd be happy to discuss this point by point with you, if you're actually able

But you should probably go see my first response above, you're obviously not very bright and easily upset....and this kind of basic discussion is really getting under your skin
 
Originally posted by GoBlue_since1985:
So basically you expect us to copy and paste or type out (whatever it is you do) every single Stat and figure from Google that we can find to base a discussion on,....so you can say how wrong it is? Gotcha sport. Kick rocks.

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No

I expect you to either know enough about football and the teams to add specific, valuable, commentary and information that you can defend when questioned/challenged (as I have) or to shutup and realize when you're a novice and the adults are tallking

Seems that you may need to lean more towards the latter
 
Gosh. Guess I should shut up. Because that works so well when you say it someone on a message board.

Fact:
Posters have, on more then one occasion, given you "point by point analysis" and you still want to argue. You're basically a troll with a repeat button on you that's linked to Wikipedia.
You just continue to piss and moan because you don't agree with some of the stuff that others post.
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Great,but you didn't nail the "stupid, yet trying to talk down to people


like I'm smart or something" angle that nddicker has perfected.
Good effort, though.
 
Originally posted by GoBlue_since1985:
Gosh. Guess I should shut up. Because that works so well when you say it someone on a message board.

Fact:
Posters have, on more then one occasion, given you "point by point analysis" and you still want to argue. You're basically a troll with a repeat button on you that's linked to Wikipedia.
You just continue to piss and moan because you don't agree with some of the stuff that others post.

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Please point to any "point-by-point" analysis on 2015 ND?

I get that you don't like it when people are actually able to back up opinions with knowledge, facts, film, etc...because it destroys the arguments of the small-minded, such as yourself

What you need to understand is that intelligent back and forth between people that actually know something is a possitive discussion, and the whole point of a message board

The real issue is posters like you, who know nothing, have no facts, and no ability to learn them...but feel the need to run their mouthes anyways

As I said, until you can actually manage that level of discussion, run along, the adults are talking...
 
Somebody isn't happy about facing the truth. Its OK…it can be a difficult reality to face. You can talk about all the points and yards and experience that ND returns this year that you want. The fact of the matter is, you are also returning a bunch of turnovers, one of the worst defenses in the country, and a coach that just isn't very good. Not to mention, all of that so-called talent is average at best.

The reality is ND will be LUCKY to be a bowl team this year. You obviously are easily upset about this and having a hard time facing this reality. But the fact is ND is stuck with the "talent" that they have and, even more importantly, the coach that they currently have. You clearly do not know much about ND football and are only trying to see things through your rose-colored glasses on this issue.
 
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