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Reality check.........Look at the Conference Bowl Results.......

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ACC: 9 wins, 3 losses and dominant over the SEC. Eat your heart out ESPN and SEC fans.

Top to bottom the ACC is the dominant conference and the rest are up for grabs.

Hope UM pounds tOSU, PSU and Iowa, et al. Good luck in 2017. :)
 
ACC: 9 wins, 3 losses and dominant over the SEC. Eat your heart out ESPN and SEC fans.

Top to bottom the ACC is the dominant conference and the rest are up for grabs.

Hope UM pounds tOSU, PSU and Iowa, et al. Good luck in 2017. :)
This changes every year, has way more to do with matchups than conference strength. Last year the ACC went 4-6
 
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The only people that say, "Bowl games aren't that important" are usually the losers.

Try this:

Extra practices
Better recruiting
More playing time for the players and staff
More $
More excitement for the fans
More $ from donors
More travel opportunities
More TV and media coverage
More recognition for the program throughout the sporting world
More player and coaches recognition
Increased student enrollment

Other than that you might say it's pretty much a waste of time! :confused:
 
The only people that say, "Bowl games aren't that important" are usually the losers.
Try this:

Extra practices
Better recruiting
More playing time for the players and staff
More $
More excitement for the fans
More $ from donors
More travel opportunities
More TV and media coverage
More recognition for the program throughout the sporting world
More player and coaches recognition
Increased student enrollment

Other than that you might say it's pretty much a waste of time! :confused:

Bowl games aren't that important for declaring the best conference

So literally everything on that list except maybe 1 or 2 things literally mean nothing if your a big program. Keep trying though man. I've only watched college football hardcore for 2-3 years and I know more then over half of the people actually watching it
 
If your Michigan and lose a bowl game

You aren't getting a worse recruiting class.
More playing time? Doesn't make sense
More money? Not much

More excitement? Nope. Unless you win the national title. If you had a great season. People are gonna be excited anyway

More travel opportunities? No?
More media attention? Definite no. I haven't heard Florida state at all after their win. Your gonna hear they beat Michigan about 2-3 times

The sporting world knows more? Nope unless the game is a natty

Player and coaches rec? Nope. If you play well you will be known. Not if you win or lose
 
If your Michigan and lose a bowl game

You aren't getting a worse recruiting class.
More playing time? Doesn't make sense
More money? Not much

More excitement? Nope. Unless you win the national title. If you had a great season. People are gonna be excited anyway

More travel opportunities? No?
More media attention? Definite no. I haven't heard Florida state at all after their win. Your gonna hear they beat Michigan about 2-3 times

The sporting world knows more? Nope unless the game is a natty

Player and coaches rec? Nope. If you play well you will be known. Not if you win or lose

Only thing I'll say S.S. is that in the Way too early poll for next season FSU seems to be listed #2 behind Bama. Don't think they'd get that lofty status without a W over Michigan.
 
Besides heads in the sand and living in denial one parting comment:

The ACC was all over the SEC both in the regular season and in the bowls. In 2016 the SEC was a one trick pony that lost the natty to the ACC. Those are the facts any way ESPN with there financial ties to the SEC try to spin it. In the event FSU does beat Alabama in Atlanta in the first game of the season for the second ACC win in a row over the SEC Champion it will really be interesting to see just how ESPN spins it! Either way, it will be a great game and highly promoted. I suspect both teams will be playing some true freshmen and red shirt freshmen. Watch and see. It will feature the two most highly rated RB's in the country that both happen to be true freshmen!
 
Only thing I'll say S.S. is that in the Way too early poll for next season FSU seems to be listed #2 behind Bama. Don't think they'd get that lofty status without a W over Michigan.

They would have been anyway with their recruiting class. Before the game I expected them to be top 5 and many others did 2
 
What was interesting was that FSU wasn't particularly good this year in the ACC...seven ACC team equaled or bettered their conference record....
 
What was interesting was that FSU wasn't particularly good this year in the ACC...seven ACC team equaled or bettered their conference record....

While this may be fact.....if you dive into the particulars you'll see FSU easily could have come out as a 1 loss team. Last second tough luck loss to UNC and we know how tough FSU played Nat'l Champ Clemson, complete with a bit of questionable officiating that went the Tiger's way that was huge. If you want to say FSU wasn't particularly good then go for it, but I would say that would be like saying Michigan wasn't particularly good......and I would call that BS.
 
Thee only game in bowls that I want is UM winning. The rest can go play at amusement parks and eat steaks everywhere."74
 
While this may be fact.....if you dive into the particulars you'll see FSU easily could have come out as a 1 loss team. Last second tough luck loss to UNC and we know how tough FSU played Nat'l Champ Clemson, complete with a bit of questionable officiating that went the Tiger's way that was huge. If you want to say FSU wasn't particularly good then go for it, but I would say that would be like saying Michigan wasn't particularly good......and I would call that BS.

FSU also beat Miami with a last second blocked PAT (how often does that happen?)

After being behind all night to NC State...FSU rallied with less than three minutes on the clock to win that one.

FSU did lose in the last 30 seconds on a UNC FG..and was playing Clemson close.


While it might be true that FSU could have been a one loss team, it is just as true that FSU could have been a team with five conference losses....there was little to separate 5-3 FSU from the other seven conference teams with 5-3 conference records.
 
FSU also beat Miami with a last second blocked PAT (how often does that happen?)

After being behind all night to NC State...FSU rallied with less than three minutes on the clock to win that one.

FSU did lose in the last 30 seconds on a UNC FG..and was playing Clemson close.


While it might be true that FSU could have been a one loss team, it is just as true that FSU could have been a team with five conference losses....there was little to separate 5-3 FSU from the other seven conference teams with 5-3 conference records.
One loss and they may have been in the POs. 5 losses and they'd have played in the Weed Wacker marigold bowl on December 14. GBGB"74
 
I think that is why the ACC did well in the bowls....there were a bunch of 5-3 in conference teams that could be tough....even Pitt could be tough on occasion.
 
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