Now you aren't really going to try and tell me that there isn't something

[Reality Man]

going on with the MSU decommits? Is Dantonio leaving? Indy? SC?

Come on folks...guys are decommitting all of a sudden? Nah...I don't believe it. I wouldn't believe this is some coincidence if it was anywhere.

Anybody hearing reasons? I am curious.


RM

 

[ThatsMrSpartan2U]

I don't know but doubt these 3 kids have any particular insight into MDs coaching future. You're reading too much Drew Sharpe these days. Very unlikely he goes to the NFL. Harbaugh will go long before MD does....and JH is safe in AA for a couple more yrs. I'm guessing. MD to S Carolina is a step down. It will take him 5-7 yrs to get them to MSU's current level. At 59 y/o he doesn't need that challenge again.
We do know the Jones kid has had SEC programs crawling all over him and who knows what that means. SEC recruiting technique is to always always keep working a kid until he actually signs. He's one of 3-4 big DL commits coming. A loss, but not huge. Florida and Ole Miss have his ear.

The NJ running back is actually playing his senior yr of FB at a N Carrolina prep school and he's home sick.....maybe. But also the decommit of the OSU RB Hill and his best buds relationship with MSU 's LJ Scott has him thinking he may not be #1 on the Spartan RB list anyway. Hill is waaaay better and if he comes to EL it will be a plus.
The LB decommit, I think, is a 3 star. Nuff said.

The notion that the cupboard will be bare next yr in EL is also way overblown. Defense will be better. Offense will be modestly worse. Some drop off, but with upside surprises to be seen.

 

[Blue_note]

Harbaugh is more likely to finish his coaching career as Michigan's coach than he is to stay a mere couple of years.

That would be his choice, not for lack of interest from elsewhere, as in, anywhere else.

This is his dream job. No previous titles, no untapped titles fit that description.

I get the feeling maybe after 5-6 years in A2 skeptics might catch on to this.

Go Blue. Always.

 

[24to12]

going on with the MSU decommits? Is Dantonio leaving? Indy? SC?

Come on folks...guys are decommitting all of a sudden? Nah...I don't believe it. I wouldn't believe this is some coincidence if it was anywhere.

Anybody hearing reasons? I am curious.


RM

Agree: Unlikely MD is going anywhere, in view of his age and the time it takes to build or rebuild a football program. He could jump to the pros for the $$$, but he is already well paid, and he is not a pro-type coach. The pattern of de-commits may mean something, but not sure what. Maybe current players are dissatisfied, and spreading negative experiences. Maybe other programs get interested in some of these players when they learn MSU is after them. Hard to know. But, it does look like the MSU program is on a downward path after 4-5 years of being at the top of the conference, and a couple of top 5 national finishes. They barely beat Purdue and Rutgers, two of the weaker programs in the conference, and won on a big time fluke in AA. It caught up with them at Nebraska. They can't run the ball and have no pass defense. Ohio State might score 60 points on them; and Penn State will beat them as well. Next year they will fall back behind OSU, Penn State, and Michigan in the division, and will be hard pressed to stay with those programs. Given that trajectory, one might understand why MD could be looking elsewhere. Give him credit: he brought MSU back. It's just hard to stay on top.

 

[detroitjohn]

Agree: Unlikely MD is going anywhere, in view of his age and the time it takes to build or rebuild a football program. He could jump to the pros for the $$$, but he is already well paid, and he is not a pro-type coach. The pattern of de-commits may mean something, but not sure what. Maybe current players are dissatisfied, and spreading negative experiences. Maybe other programs get interested in some of these players when they learn MSU is after them. Hard to know. But, it does look like the MSU program is on a downward path after 4-5 years of being at the top of the conference, and a couple of top 5 national finishes. They barely beat Purdue and Rutgers, two of the weaker programs in the conference, and won on a big time fluke in AA. It caught up with them at Nebraska. They can't run the ball and have no pass defense. Ohio State might score 60 points on them; and Penn State will beat them as well. Next year they will fall back behind OSU, Penn State, and Michigan in the division, and will be hard pressed to stay with those programs. Given that trajectory, one might understand why MD could be looking elsewhere. Give him credit: he brought MSU back. It's just hard to stay on top.

That's a lot to press into a harrowing loss in the last 20 seconds. I do agree their defense is not what it has been (except against us), but I'm not prepared to say that they're on the way down. Next year will be tough replacing Cook, but Dantonio has a history of training up QBs.

The decommits are strange and ponderous. Usually you don't get them in bunches and they may indicate something is afloat. Let's stay tuned.

 

[24to12]

That's a lot to press into a harrowing loss in the last 20 seconds. I do agree their defense is not what it has been (except against us), but I'm not prepared to say that they're on the way down. Next year will be tough replacing Cook, but Dantonio has a history of training up QBs.

The decommits are strange and ponderous. Usually you don't get them in bunches and they may indicate something is afloat. Let's stay tuned.

It's not just the Nebraska game. My point was that MSU is not a particularly good team, and has not been all season -- witness the close games against Purdue and Rutgers. They are not a top 10 or even a top 20 team nationally. They played by far their best game of the season against Michigan, and still deserved to lose. It's catching up with them now. I expect them to beat Maryland, mainly because they are at home, but would not be surprised in the least to see the Spartans lose to the Terps. Ohio State will beat them easily; and Penn State will beat them as well.

 

[ThatsMrSpartan2U]

For a team that's playing a ton of guys.....10-12.....who were penciled in to be backups or redshirt all year MSU is surprisingly good. 8-1 as I type and looks like 9-1 in an hour or so.

Long season. Lots of plays. Lots of opportunities to mess up.....you guys know that too. I'm not expecting my Spartans to play in B1G Champ game. They could. But doubt this team can best OSU. I'm actually picking you guys to play Iowa. However, I don't think the final four will take a 2 loss team.

 

[michigangoblue999]

Just a coincidence, IMO. If there are a couple more in the next two weeks, then let's revisit the issue.

 

[Reality Man]

You are right. It is just a cluster of decommitments. It is strange all of them hit in a close period but you are dealing with teenagers.


RM

 

[detroitjohn]

For a team that's playing a ton of guys.....10-12.....who were penciled in to be backups or redshirt all year MSU is surprisingly good. 8-1 as I type and looks like 9-1 in an hour or so.

Long season. Lots of plays. Lots of opportunities to mess up.....you guys know that too. I'm not expecting my Spartans to play in B1G Champ game. They could. But doubt this team can best OSU. I'm actually picking you guys to play Iowa. However, I don't think the final four will take a 2 loss team.

I'm tired of the injury line from Sparties, it's football, every team has injuries, stop using cheap excuses to explain how poorly your team has played. You guys simply have underperformed, that's the line champions use when they don't quite get it done.

 

[ThatsMrSpartan2U]

I happen to feel the Sparties have outperformed considering all the adversity they've suffered. One crazy win and one crazy loss. Still 9-1. Underperform? No...not really. Spartans likely won't be B1G champions. Maybe of the Holiday Bowl or Capital One. Could be 10-0 heading into OSU game....not that it would matter. I'm cool with where my team is. Wish it could be better, but I got it. Will probably end up 10-2 with Jan 1 bowl bid. Healthy, they can beat just about anybody....but.....yeah......well.....Sparty on.

 

[Lake Tahoe Spartan]

I feel injuries are a legit excuse. If you lose your star player that you need, or a cluster of injuries to the same position group happen. However, it goes both ways. How much has your team befitted from your opponents injuries is something you always have to keep in mind.