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the CFP committee.

It will be foregone conclusion that Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma will be in. The fourth spot then has to go to Iowa even if ND wins big tonight.

But if ND wins this 4th quarter, and MSU wins next week. What does the committee do?
MSU probably has a better overall body of work but if you just look at each team's loss, ND lost by 2 at Clemson. MSU lost at 5-7 Nebraska, fluke or not. Want to call it a fluke? Fine, then the committee can see MSUs win at UM was as big a fluke.

Tough decision for them if all three win.
 
maelfan said:
the CFP committee.

It will be foregone conclusion that Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma will be in. The fourth spot then has to go to Iowa even if ND wins big tonight.

But if ND wins this 4th quarter, and MSU wins next week. What does the committee do?
MSU probably has a better overall body of work but if you just look at each team's loss, ND lost by 2 at Clemson. MSU lost at 5-7 Nebraska, fluke or not. Want to call it a fluke? Fine, then the committee can see MSUs win at UM was as big a fluke.

Tough decision for them if all three win.
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If I hear 1 more time how Oklahoma's loss was awful but Bama giving up 50+ to Ole Miss was a fluke and they use the term "eye test", I may start projectile vomiting.
 
maelfan said:
the CFP committee.

It will be foregone conclusion that Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma will be in. The fourth spot then has to go to Iowa even if ND wins big tonight.

But if ND wins this 4th quarter, and MSU wins next week. What does the committee do?
MSU probably has a better overall body of work but if you just look at each team's loss, ND lost by 2 at Clemson. MSU lost at 5-7 Nebraska, fluke or not. Want to call it a fluke? Fine, then the committee can see MSUs win at UM was as big a fluke.

Tough decision for them if all three win.
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Conference championships count more than Independent championships gained through self-selected schedules, IMHO. Pick MSU and OK, punish ND for not belonging to a conference.
 
detroitjohn said:
Conference championships count more than Independent championships gained through self-selected schedules, IMHO. Pick MSU and OK, punish ND for not belonging to a conference.
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You all may be right about what could happen to ND even if they come back tonight. However, the committee does not have the hatred for ND that those of us in Big Ten country have. They will look at NDs twelve games and MSUs 13 games objectively. Like I said, if you only look at each team's loss (If ND wins tonight), MSUs loss, fluke or not is 50 times worse. If you look at the whole body of work, although NDs schedule was not awful, then it has to be MSU.
 
maelfan said:
the CFP committee.

It will be foregone conclusion that Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma will be in. The fourth spot then has to go to Iowa even if ND wins big tonight.

But if ND wins this 4th quarter, and MSU wins next week. What does the committee do?
MSU probably has a better overall body of work but if you just look at each team's loss, ND lost by 2 at Clemson. MSU lost at 5-7 Nebraska, fluke or not. Want to call it a fluke? Fine, then the committee can see MSUs win at UM was as big a fluke.

Tough decision for them if all three win.
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ND would only have quality wins over...
Navy #16 (at time played)
Stanford #9 (road)

MSU would have quality wins over...
OSU #3 (road)
Iowa #4 (Neutral site)
UM #13 (road at time played)
Oregon #7 (at time played)

MSU is already ranked higher then ND. I just can't see the winner of MSU / Iowa being left out.
 
maelfan said:
You all may be right about what could happen to ND even if they come back tonight. However, the committee does not have the hatred for ND that those of us in Big Ten country have. They will look at NDs twelve games and MSUs 13 games objectively. Like I said, if you only look at each team's loss (If ND wins tonight), MSUs loss, fluke or not is 50 times worse. If you look at the whole body of work, although NDs schedule was not awful, then it has to be MSU.
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Bank it, they will not screw the Big 10. Whoever wins that championship is in. Alabama is in, they won't lose to FL. Oklahoma is in, no question with how they closed the season. That leaves one spot.
 
Lake Tahoe Spartan said:
ND would only have quality wins over...
Navy #16 (at time played)
Stanford #9 (road)

MSU would have quality wins over...
OSU #3 (road)
Iowa #4 (Neutral site)
UM #13 (road at time played)
Oregon #7 (at time played)

MSU is already ranked higher then ND. I just can't see the winner of MSU / Iowa being left out.
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Valid points but you can't look at where the team was when you played them. You have to look at the entire season of opponents. Wins against Pitt, especially with 42 points and I believe 41 vs. USC are not too shabby. And almost 40 at Stanford if they win this game.
MSUs win over UM will not be as big as it could have been for a couple of reasons. First, it was a total fluke. Second, UM will be closer to 20th tomorrow morning.
I think ND has a chance if MSU wins next week. Guess we will see.
 
maelfan said:
Valid points but you can't look at where the team was when you played them. You have to look at the entire season of opponents. Wins against Pitt, especially with 42 points and I believe 41 vs. USC are not too shabby. And almost 40 at Stanford if they win this game.
MSUs win over UM will not be as big as it could have been for a couple of reasons. First, it was a total fluke. Second, UM will be closer to 20th tomorrow morning.
I think ND has a chance if MSU wins next week. Guess we will see.
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The Big 10 champ goes, bank on it.
 
maelfan said:
the CFP committee.

It will be foregone conclusion that Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma will be in. The fourth spot then has to go to Iowa even if ND wins big tonight.

But if ND wins this 4th quarter, and MSU wins next week. What does the committee do?
MSU probably has a better overall body of work but if you just look at each team's loss, ND lost by 2 at Clemson. MSU lost at 5-7 Nebraska, fluke or not. Want to call it a fluke? Fine, then the committee can see MSUs win at UM was as big a fluke.

Tough decision for them if all three win.
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Whoever wins the B1G Championship is a cinch to go.
 
UNC will not be an easy game for Clemson. Hell, outside of handing South Carolina a 3 point win in week one, UNC has been perfect. A UNC win would not be a surprise. If that was to happen, does OSU get the 4th spot, or UNC?
 
If UNC beats Clemson they're in... Almost all the one loss teams in front of them lost (Baylor, ND, OKST, UF)... They'll be 7 or 8 in the next CFP. If they knock off an undefeated #1 they're jumping OSU who isn't playing in the B1G title game and a 2 loss Stanford if they win the PAC-12

The playoffs should be:

Clemson/UNC winner
Oklahoma
Iowa/MSU winner
Bama (cmon, they're gonna beat UF)
 
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