I'd have to disagree with coach Harbaugh. When you don't

[Reality Man]

release a depth chart (which is standard operating procedure across the college football landscape) then some counter reactions are going to occur.

Coach Harbaugh is intense and focused but Colorado should be able to play on a level field. What are their choices?

1. Not release a depth chart? (Level playing field)
2. Release a depth chart (competitive advantage UM)
3. Use humor to send message to their opponent that 'two can play this game'.


Colorado won the first round. By the way...I did send an email to the mlive reporter and told him that when a coach says it's an internal matter then the questions should end at that point regarding this issue being pursued.

So I do try and be fair on these issues and believe Colorado is in the right.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/09/jim_harbaugh_wasnt_amused_by_c.html

RM

 

[Reality Man]

Do you believe this? I think the bottom line is the depth chart is courtesy and if UM doesn't release one then expect some form of political retaliation by some schools.

Harbaugh didn't see that one. He just saw the depth chart.

He then gave his explanation for why Michigan no longer prints one.

"I saw the depth chart," he said. "I was trying to imagine how many people sat around and how many hours they worked on that. We've just found, I mean, when it comes to the depth chart -- modern technology seems to have made the depth chart an out-dated task by about 20 years. We've found studying last week's film of the opponent is the most accurate way of determining another team's depth chart.

"There's so much written about the team that's on the Internet. For those of us who can or do watch the games -- they're all on television now as well -- we just felt like modern technology was the most accurate way of knowing what the opponent's depth chart is by looking at the previous week's film. And not relying on another PR director's assessment of what the depth chart is."

 

[Reality Man]

Ok. So Harbaugh is really saying that the depth chart is misinformation and waste of everyone's time. So release a bogus depth chart and play the game.

I support the coach to not release a depth chart. No rule in place. He obviously feels strongly but he was 'insulted' by Colorado mocking his belief that he was doing these things out of spite. So if I were a rival or competitor then I wouldn't release a depth chart but have absolutely NO problem with teams using humor to get their point across.

In response to coach Harbaugh...is he saying that he doesn't know most of the depth chart is accurate. Just put out a partial depth chart that is accurate otherwise prepare to be presented with all sorts of responses.


RM

 

[michigangoblue999]

Are you having another conversation with yourself?

Unless and until the NCAA mandates that teams issue injury information, Michigan should skip releasing depth charts. No point to it.

They have an internal depth chart, I'm sure. They can use that to motivate players, without fans and media freaking out when something unexpected pops up on the chart.

 

[CancunLive]

Are you having another conversation with yourself?

Unless and until the NCAA mandates that teams issue injury information, Michigan should skip releasing depth charts. No point to it.

They have an internal depth chart, I'm sure. They can use that to motivate players, without fans and media freaking out when something unexpected pops up on the chart.

"Are you having another conversation with yourself"?

Absolutely bizzarro...

 

[Reality Man]

"Are you having another conversation with yourself"?

Absolutely bizzarro...

Yes...I thought the same thing. My bad.


RM

 

[Tabularasa]

Adderral can be fun sometimes.

 

[Westcoast24]

Most depth charts tend to be a joke anyway. Who cares.

 

[Scavenger]

You guys will like depth charts again when Harbaugh is gone. He is a terrific coach with zero personality. How many people spent how much time on it? Really Jim? It was probably one of the best publicity stunts CU has done in years. It was worth every minute of it and that's probably why he was so zinged about it. It has gotten more airplay than the game itself. I have seen more talk on national networks about the depth chart than the #5 ranked team playing against it. So, yes, CU PR department 1 - old fussy pants Harbaugh 0.

I like Jim and loved what he did at Stanford, but this is a college game of unpaid students. When we get to the point where there is 0 fun involved, then it has divulged into something that is not meant for college campuses. I mean, Michigan isn't going to lose to Ohio State because it released a depth chart. It's like saying we won't release a media guide because people on the internet already know everything about the program.

 

[PharmD Blue]

You guys will like depth charts again when Harbaugh is gone. He is a terrific coach with zero personality. How many people spent how much time on it? Really Jim? It was probably one of the best publicity stunts CU has done in years. It was worth every minute of it and that's probably why he was so zinged about it. It has gotten more airplay than the game itself. I have seen more talk on national networks about the depth chart than the #5 ranked team playing against it. So, yes, CU PR department 1 - old fussy pants Harbaugh 0.

I like Jim and loved what he did at Stanford, but this is a college game of unpaid students. When we get to the point where there is 0 fun involved, then it has divulged into something that is not meant for college campuses. I mean, Michigan isn't going to lose to Ohio State because it released a depth chart. It's like saying we won't release a media guide because people on the internet already know everything about the program.

Lol. Keep telling yourself that. Tell the players he has coached he has zero personality...that is what matters. And ask the players what they find more fun...depth charts or winning? There is no point in releasing a depth chart.

 

[Scavenger]

Lol. Keep telling yourself that. Tell the players he has coached he has zero personality...that is what matters. And ask the players what they find more fun...depth charts or winning? There is no point in releasing a depth chart.

Again, you wouldn't say this if he wasn't your coach. Nobody else in the country in fact says this. If everyone else says something else other than you, then it's probably you. Myopic to think anything else.

As far as his personality, have you lived in a cave?


It's not like he wasn't the coach at Stanford and we don't know who he is. He is a Michigan man and all, but we probably are more familiar with him as a coach than you guys are since he's been on the "left" coast for years. His personality issues have been in question for years as has his odd behavior. He got completely schooled on the depth chart issue. No other way to put it.

 

[PharmD Blue]

Again, you wouldn't say this if he wasn't your coach. Nobody else in the country in fact says this. If everyone else says something else other than you, then it's probably you. Myopic to think anything else.

As far as his personality, have you lived in a cave?

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It's not like he wasn't the coach at Stanford and we don't know who he is. He is a Michigan man and all, but we probably are more familiar with him as a coach than you guys are since he's been on the "left" coast for years. His personality issues have been in question for years as has his odd behavior. He got completely schooled on the depth chart issue. No other way to put it.

Again, you seem to take this whole depth chart issue FAR to seriously. He was asked about it, he spoke his mind. People get a little too offended nowadays. I do like the "if everyone else says something else other than you, it's probably you" mentality. Follow the pack...sure thing chief.

Based on everything you are saying, I am taking it that you are the one living in the cave. Sure, we'll leave it to a Colorado fan to tell us how much he really knows of Harbaugh. If you want to keep telling yourself that he got schooled on the depth chart issue...well that is about as amusing as Colorado planning to wear the 1994 throwback unis. But I guess you will have to find something to take solace in after this game Saturday. The only thing that matters is the scoreboard. Keep trying to pump up your little moral "victories", if that is what you want to call them.

 

[Scavenger]

Again, you seem to take this whole depth chart issue FAR to seriously. He was asked about it, he spoke his mind. People get a little too offended nowadays. I do like the "if everyone else says something else other than you, it's probably you" mentality. Follow the pack...sure thing chief.

Based on everything you are saying, I am taking it that you are the one living in the cave. Sure, we'll leave it to a Colorado fan to tell us how much he really knows of Harbaugh. If you want to keep telling yourself that he got schooled on the depth chart issue...well that is about as amusing as Colorado planning to wear the 1994 throwback unis. But I guess you will have to find something to take solace in after this game Saturday. The only thing that matters is the scoreboard. Keep trying to pump up your little moral "victories", if that is what you want to call them.

If everyone else says 2+2 = 4 and you say it's 5, it's everyone else who is wrong. Gotcha! NO need to follow the herd when you are on a planet of your own. Just don't blame anyone else for your loneliness. By the way, snark doesn't make you sound smart. You should back up your statements with something factual. Harbaugh spent years at San Diego, years at Stanford, and years on the 9ers. He's more than a bit well known out in the west as a coach. Again, those are just the facts. You can keep your snark and childish retorts. As for moral victories, I didn't pump up any. I just stated facts. CU's uniforms are not throwback either. They are the most common road uniform combination we have. It's the combination we happened to wear in 1994, but it's also the most common one worn the last 10 years. Again, these are just the facts.

 

[PharmD Blue]

If everyone else says 2+2 = 4 and you say it's 5, it's everyone else who is wrong. Gotcha! NO need to follow the herd when you are on a planet of your own. Just don't blame anyone else for your loneliness. By the way, snark doesn't make you sound smart. You should back up your statements with something factual. Harbaugh spent years at San Diego, years at Stanford, and years on the 9ers. He's more than a bit well known out in the west as a coach. Again, those are just the facts. You can keep your snark and childish retorts. As for moral victories, I didn't pump up any. I just stated facts. CU's uniforms are not throwback either. They are the most common road uniform combination we have. It's the combination we happened to wear in 1994, but it's also the most common one worn the last 10 years. Again, these are just the facts.

Somebody getting a little offended?? It appears if anybody disagrees with what YOU think, they must be absolutely wrong. Gotchya chief! Keep telling yourself this haha. I'm glad you think you know him so well because you got to hear everything through the media on the West Coast...that obviously tells it all (at least in your own little world). Fact is Harbaugh is a polarizing figure...there seems to be no in-between. And it is completely obvious what you think (and how you are using that to guide your judgement).

That is pretty comical about the uniforms, actually. Especially when many in the Colorado media are making it a point to note that those were the SAME uniforms as in 1994. For someone that seems to take the media so seriously, you can obviously see that this is NOT a coincidence.

I will repeat...winning...that is what matters most. Again, those are the facts (to everyone except yourself, I guess).

 

[Scavenger]

The uniform combination is not a coincidence but it's not something 'special' for Michigan. It's the combination we wear the most on the road. I'm not arguing Harbaugh's personality. Just do a google search of it and you'll get 100 articles about it from the Bay area and they won't be positive. It took me literally 10 seconds to find 10 that were negative right from the top. I agree he's a polarizing figure. I stand by what I said about the depth chart though. He was clowned in that one and the story went viral on him. Whining about how much time it took and blah blah just goes to show how far it got under his skin and what a public relations boon it was for CU.

 

[PharmD Blue]

Fair enough...we will obviously not come to any agreement on these items, as I don't think your perception of the matter is accurate at all. Regardless, best of luck Saturday...but obviously not too much luck lol

 

[michigangoblue999]

You guys will like depth charts again when Harbaugh is gone. He is a terrific coach with zero personality.

Umm, yeah, that's why the media writes a zillion stories about Harbaugh, because he has no personality.

What a bizarre take.

Everything Harbaugh does gets scrutiny. When the Hawaii coach joked that Harbaugh wouldn't give him tape of Michigan's practices, the media ran with it and it became a national story. Nevermind the fact that coaches would never share practice tape.

 

[detroitjohn]

The uniform combination is not a coincidence but it's not something 'special' for Michigan. It's the combination we wear the most on the road. I'm not arguing Harbaugh's personality. Just do a google search of it and you'll get 100 articles about it from the Bay area and they won't be positive. It took me literally 10 seconds to find 10 that were negative right from the top. I agree he's a polarizing figure. I stand by what I said about the depth chart though. He was clowned in that one and the story went viral on him. Whining about how much time it took and blah blah just goes to show how far it got under his skin and what a public relations boon it was for CU.

I like the Colorado unies, it reminds me of when we last played and impaled them in 97 while they were wearing those. Good times!

 

[michigangoblue999]

I like the Colorado unies, it reminds me of when we last played and impaled them in 97 while they were wearing those. Good times!

I remember the old Colorado uniforms, but I have no idea what they have been wearing recently. Without all the stories this week, I'd have no idea they were wearing throwbacks.

 

[SpartanHaze]

Just an MSU lurker over here and I agree that just releasing a depth chart would be the path of least resistance. That said, I heard your coach's interview in Detroit sports talk this week and what he said was true. Something along the lines of coaches watching tons of tape from the previous games of your opponent and you should know the depth chart from that research. You don't need it spelled out in a press release. He has a point.