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Reality Man

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I am willing to go to 15 different boards on Rivals (Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big East) and do a survey because a fellow poster (who may actually reflect your own opinion) said the following (paraphrasing)...

that if a kid gets a scholarship offer and accepts but hasn't signed the letter of intent then if the same kid could get into the school academically without a football scholarship then they have no right to complain. So, just to clarify, if kid is planning on playing football at 'x' university but then 10 days before signing date the university pulls the scholarship offer but kid is able to go to that school for academic reasons then no harm no foul.

I am offering this 'survey/poll' not just to MSU fans or Northwestern fans but to a number or different boards...from ND to hopefully UCLA, ASU, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. I want to see the results to find out what other board posters think about this issue? Do you want to see how 'others' view this issue. I won't ask them personally about Harbaugh but will ask if they are okay with that policy listed above.




RM
 
I am willing to go to 15 different boards on Rivals (Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big East) and do a survey because a fellow poster (who may actually reflect your own opinion) said the following (paraphrasing)...

that if a kid gets a scholarship offer and accepts but hasn't signed the letter of intent then if the same kid could get into the school academically without a football scholarship then they have no right to complain. So, just to clarify, if kid is planning on playing football at 'x' university but then 10 days before signing date the university pulls the scholarship offer but kid is able to go to that school for academic reasons then no harm no foul.

I am offering this 'survey/poll' not just to MSU fans or Northwestern fans but to a number or different boards...from ND to hopefully UCLA, ASU, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. I want to see the results to find out what other board posters think about this issue? Do you want to see how 'others' view this issue. I won't ask them personally about Harbaugh but will ask if they are okay with that policy listed above.




RM
Put me down as in no way interested at all in what other boards/fan bases think.
 
If they qualify academically does the university still pick up the tab for everything. There are a lot of kids that cannot afford the school without the full ride.
 
I am willing to go to 15 different boards on Rivals (Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big East) and do a survey because a fellow poster (who may actually reflect your own opinion) said the following (paraphrasing)...

that if a kid gets a scholarship offer and accepts but hasn't signed the letter of intent then if the same kid could get into the school academically without a football scholarship then they have no right to complain. So, just to clarify, if kid is planning on playing football at 'x' university but then 10 days before signing date the university pulls the scholarship offer but kid is able to go to that school for academic reasons then no harm no foul.

I am offering this 'survey/poll' not just to MSU fans or Northwestern fans but to a number or different boards...from ND to hopefully UCLA, ASU, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. I want to see the results to find out what other board posters think about this issue? Do you want to see how 'others' view this issue. I won't ask them personally about Harbaugh but will ask if they are okay with that policy listed above.




RM
Personally, I'd love to see you take this topic somewhere else where they may (or may NOT) care. But why stop at 15 boards? Take it to all of the other Rivals boards. It might keep you busy enough for a while that you'll stop beating this dead horse here. No need to report back here with your findings though. I, and most others here couldn't care less! However, may I suggest a couple of other interesting hobbies you may want to consider? Have you ever tried pottery or needlepoint? I hear they're both quite interesting and rewarding.

Go Blue!
 
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Personally, I'd love to see you take this topic somewhere else where they may (or may NOT) care. But why stop at 15 boards? Take it to all of the other Rivals boards. It might keep you busy enough for a while that you'll stop beating this dead horse here. No need to report back here with your findings though. I, and most others here couldn't care less! However, may I suggest a couple of other interesting hobbies you may want to consider? Have you ever tried pottery or needlepoint? I hear they're both quite interesting and rewarding.

Go Blue!
I agree with JRforUM, make a dissertation out of this. Please report back in a 3-5 years when you're done...
 
I agree with JRforUM, make a dissertation out of this. Please report back in a 3-5 years when you're done...
Do you think 3-5 years is sufficient enough data to form a consensus here? I'm not sure about that. How about we we wait and address it thoroughly when Jim Harbaugh retires in 10-15 years? I think that would suffice. Sound good?

Go Blue!
 
Do you think 3-5 years is sufficient enough data to form a consensus here? I'm not sure about that. How about we we wait and address it thoroughly when Jim Harbaugh retires in 10-15 years? I think that would suffice. Sound good?

Go Blue!
Consider my suggestion a starting point, you make excellent counters, let's not limit his magnum opus.
 
I am willing to go to 15 different boards on Rivals (Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big East) and do a survey because a fellow poster (who may actually reflect your own opinion) said the following (paraphrasing)...

that if a kid gets a scholarship offer and accepts but hasn't signed the letter of intent then if the same kid could get into the school academically without a football scholarship then they have no right to complain. So, just to clarify, if kid is planning on playing football at 'x' university but then 10 days before signing date the university pulls the scholarship offer but kid is able to go to that school for academic reasons then no harm no foul.

I am offering this 'survey/poll' not just to MSU fans or Northwestern fans but to a number or different boards...from ND to hopefully UCLA, ASU, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. I want to see the results to find out what other board posters think about this issue? Do you want to see how 'others' view this issue. I won't ask them personally about Harbaugh but will ask if they are okay with that policy listed above.




RM
Reality Man, even your own board doesn't like you. GLTU.

As for myself, I think you're OK. However, I too don't care that UMmers don't care about this issue. I'm not surprised.
 
I am willing to go to 15 different boards on Rivals (Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big East) and do a survey because a fellow poster (who may actually reflect your own opinion) said the following (paraphrasing)...

that if a kid gets a scholarship offer and accepts but hasn't signed the letter of intent then if the same kid could get into the school academically without a football scholarship then they have no right to complain. So, just to clarify, if kid is planning on playing football at 'x' university but then 10 days before signing date the university pulls the scholarship offer but kid is able to go to that school for academic reasons then no harm no foul.

I am offering this 'survey/poll' not just to MSU fans or Northwestern fans but to a number or different boards...from ND to hopefully UCLA, ASU, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. I want to see the results to find out what other board posters think about this issue? Do you want to see how 'others' view this issue. I won't ask them personally about Harbaugh but will ask if they are okay with that policy listed above.




RM

Let it go man! Good gravy dude.
 
Reality Man, even your own board doesn't like you. GLTU.

As for myself, I think you're OK. However, I too don't care that UMmers don't care about this issue. I'm not surprised.

Is it only an issue when UM does it? Find it funny hearing the uproar from sparties thinking this is the end of the world. Yet, not a peep during the countless other times this has been going on in CFB years past. Sparty fans never cease to impress and, more importantly, amuse.
 
Only UMmers eat their own...sometimes it's their fellow posters as is the case here with RM...more often their recruits (decommits), coaches (former), players (transfers). I find that amusing.
 
Only UMmers eat their own...sometimes it's their fellow posters as is the case here with RM...more often their recruits (decommits), coaches (former), players (transfers). I find that amusing.
What I find amusing is the number of sparty trolls who come here to a UM board to get eaten rather than get eaten on their own sparty board. Oh wait. I forgot, just like their stadium, there's no one there.

Go Blue!
 
If they qualify academically does the university still pick up the tab for everything. There are a lot of kids that cannot afford the school without the full ride.

You would think that it would be pretty obvious. In addition to the money saved by being on scholarship, being a scholarship athlete has many other benefits as well including: Preferred schedules, academic advisors and tutors, training table used to be a big one although that might be available to walk-ons now as well, and I'm not sure about insurance if a player gets injured as a walk-on.
 
You would think that it would be pretty obvious. In addition to the money saved by being on scholarship, being a scholarship athlete has many other benefits as well including: Preferred schedules, academic advisors and tutors, training table used to be a big one although that might be available to walk-ons now as well, and I'm not sure about insurance if a player gets injured as a walk-on.
Plus the lifetime networking that is a help in finding work, building a business, etc.
 
Reality Man, I think I was the one that made that statement. I think you should have been at the Iowa caucus yesterday and you should have stated your case. Seriously dude, you stop and nothing to just get your point across - it's called beating a dead horse!!! I agree with what Klemman and detroitjohn said - you don't seem to grasp the full suite of things that every kid that gets an athletic, especially football, scholarship is privy to. There are TONS of kids that are more deserving academically but we never feel sorry for them. For every 2.9 GPA kid in HS that is great at football there is a 3.5 GPA student that would love to come to Michigan that has not gotten in - do you feel remorse for them? Should we perhaps survey them and ask them what they think while you are at it.

Anyway, I know how you work. Over the next 2-3 days you will actually go on all other sites and post your random biased results. In the meantime, you will also scour the internet and find every article and opinion that matches yours and post it here and then convince people why you are right...and then in about a year, you will retract and go down a rat hole about some other topic. Dude, seriously man!
 
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