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Denard's Record Run at Notre Dame Stadium Surpassed

dallasdomer

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Sep 18, 2005
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Denard's 87 yard run stood for 5 years, now eclipsed by ND's C. J. Prosise (91 yards). Denard was a classy college player, but I'm sure glad that little UM stat line is gone. I'm glad Denard is gone too, I got pretty sick and tired of seeing him run up and down the field against us.
 
Denard's 87 yard run stood for 5 years, now eclipsed by ND's C. J. Prosise (91 yards). Denard was a classy college player, but I'm sure glad that little UM stat line is gone. I'm glad Denard is gone too, I got pretty sick and tired of seeing him run up and down the field against us.
I think he had a sick number of career yards passing and running vs ND
 
I'll never forget one ND fan yells out "pull his hair" and when everyone in the stands looks his way the idiot says "well, we gotta slow him down some way." DR got 505 total yards in that game.
 
Denard's 87 yard run stood for 5 years, now eclipsed by ND's C. J. Prosise (91 yards). Denard was a classy college player, but I'm sure glad that little UM stat line is gone. I'm glad Denard is gone too, I got pretty sick and tired of seeing him run up and down the field against us.

I preferred seeing him on his back, or seeing him run down the sideline chasing Te'o after throwing a pick, in 2012.
 
Bo was wrong, he said those who stayed would champions, he lied.
Ah, another Domer that's been banned back under a freshly minted moniker. Yeah, 192 wins, 13 Big 10 championships, #2 finish, one undefeated season, crushing Joe Montana in South Bend, leaving a 18 year legacy of winning after his retirement by setting up his former assistants, the next two UM coaches that won big, and preparing a QB that crushed you guys twice to become UM's head coach 45 years after he came to Ann Arbor, yeah, what a loser.

Care to compare your trophy case of coaches in that period? Ara Parseghian who left in 74, Dan Devine, great and unappreciated, and then it really get's good...Gerry Faust, Probation Holtz, Bob Davie, Resume O'Leary, Ty Willingham, Hotplate Weis to whom you gave a 50 year contract, and finally Brian Kelly, a coach that at least can get you to an important game, only to get your asses kicked. Yeah, those last 30 years, that's a list of champs, I'd really pump my chest out and call out UM's hall of fame coach if I were sitting in your chair.

Like Bo said, "To hell with Notre Dame."
 
Bo was wrong, he said those who stayed would champions, he lied.
BTW, I've yet to meet a ND fan here who knows a damn thing about football, including a guy like you who knows nothing about the context of "those who stay will be champions". If you did you would understand why ND football for the last generation has been irrelevant and will continue to be so.
 
Always like it when Michigan fans talk about irrelevant. Here we have the 2nd year of the college playoff and there's probably been a thousand articles written about it. The only mention of Michigan in these articles is 'no chance whatsoever'. Talk about irrelevant! You guys could drop off the face of the earth and it would have zero impact on college football. Outside of Michigan no one cares about you!

Also love it when you guys talk about Bo being such a great coach. He never won anything. Holtz kicked his ass up and down the field. No NC's, lots of bow losses. Basically a loser. But he's the best you guys have in the last 50 years! Really puts in perspective how little your program is.
 
Hey Dallas Dome Head!!!!!!!!Stating that Bo was a loser as a coach is absolutely stupid as a football fan. College football during Bo's time is different than what it is today and also stating that Michigan in college football is irrelevant is even more ignorant. Bo is one of the all time greatest coaches in college football period and everyone knows that even though he never won a national championship. Come on, I do not care for ND, however, they deserve their props for being an iconic college football program who has finally been made relevant again under Kelly much like Michigan will be under Jim Harbaugh. Bo's overall record as a head coach was 234-65-8. I would hardly call that never winning anything or being a loser. Bo was a losing coach in bowls though with a 5-12 record and that sucked. Bo had a 4-6 record against the Irish which is not a losing record as well. What amazes me the most in the rivalry is how in the hell Kelly managed to lose 4 games to Michigan from 2009-through 2014? This was the Rich Rod/Hoke years which is arguably Michigan's worst football years. Every program has gone through down years INCLUDING Notre Dame. By the way. Holtz cheated his ass off while he was in South Bend!!! Tony Rice was admitted to ND with a 450 SAT score and Chris Zordich and the defense was roided to the core which came out much later. Remember the SI story on that later on or where you even born then? For the record-I like Holtz as he built South Carolina for Spurier's success and he did without Steroids and getting students admitted to the university with non existent test scores which were required.
 
Hey Dallas Dome Head!!!!!!!!Stating that Bo was a loser as a coach is absolutely stupid as a football fan. College football during Bo's time is different than what it is today and also stating that Michigan in college football is irrelevant is even more ignorant. Bo is one of the all time greatest coaches in college football period and everyone knows that even though he never won a national championship. Come on, I do not care for ND, however, they deserve their props for being an iconic college football program who has finally been made relevant again under Kelly much like Michigan will be under Jim Harbaugh. Bo's overall record as a head coach was 234-65-8. I would hardly call that never winning anything or being a loser. Bo was a losing coach in bowls though with a 5-12 record and that sucked. Bo had a 4-6 record against the Irish which is not a losing record as well. What amazes me the most in the rivalry is how in the hell Kelly managed to lose 4 games to Michigan from 2009-through 2014? This was the Rich Rod/Hoke years which is arguably Michigan's worst football years. Every program has gone through down years INCLUDING Notre Dame. By the way. Holtz cheated his ass off while he was in South Bend!!! Tony Rice was admitted to ND with a 450 SAT score and Chris Zordich and the defense was roided to the core which came out much later. Remember the SI story on that later on or where you even born then? For the record-I like Holtz as he built South Carolina for Spurier's success and he did without Steroids and getting students admitted to the university with non existent test scores which were required.
You don't even mention the academic and money scandals that came at the end of Holtz's time. ND fans MO is to carefully select out what matters, edit out what is inconvenient and then make an argument on their chosen ground. On this board they talk as though they've owned Michigan football for years, where as you point out, they've struggled against the worst UM teams in 50 years and when we were last strong, we kicked them around like they were a second-tier B10 program (in 2006 and 07). I've posted a number of times on Domer football in the past week and I have gotten hardly any direct responses, just these sorts of "Hey, look, squirrel" responses.

ND fans have worked hard to stand atop of the delusional rankings in college football and their interactions on this board this past week have done nothing but buttress my convictions that they are not only more arrogant than UM fans (and yes I think we are), but they inhabit a psychological delusion about their past and future that is anachronistic and selectively biased. They were great in the 20s, 40s, and 60s to early 70s, a past any college fan would be proud of (just like we're proud of our days of past glory in from 1900 thru the 40s). They've had great coaches like Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian, and Devine (I don't include a cheater like Holtz just like I won't include Steve Fisher in our hall of bball greats). However, until 2012, besides a few years under Probation Holtz, cheating away, they have been at the margins for a generation or more of college football. The game has changed greatly since they were last big-time, national players in the late 80s and is moving precipitously toward a conference championship-based playoff model that will leave ND at the margins, pleading with other big-time, national conferences and schools about how they should have special dispensations to get into the playoffs. Meanwhile their fanbase has not changed and does not demand that ND move out of the glory days of the 60s and the fantasy that they are a national program and all the rest of us are mere regional pikers (btw there are probably 10-12 truly national, recognized everywhere programs) and get into a conference and earn their way into the playoffs through the hard, sweat and blood of a conference championship run. I wonder and somewhat suspect that in their heart of hearts ND may wonder if they could cut in such a setting, so they continue on. Perhaps they don't want to duplicate the conference championship futility they've experienced in Big East basketball and probably will experience in the ACC? Did they ever win a regular season conference championship in this other, major men's sport (besides the last year's conference tournament championship)? Anecdotal, but perhaps telling evidence of my theory.

My suggestion and probably my practice from here on is going to be to ignore the posts of ND fans. It's essentially the same thing for the last 15+ years of interacting with them on our board, obfuscating facts, resorting to taunts when cornered in an argument, etc. For me, having an ND fan claim that Bo never won anything is about as revealing a statement of someone's ignorance of football that a fan could make.

And oh, Bo was right...
 
scfanblue, you are correct. I overstated my case. Bo was not a loser. He posted a winning record and is very much respected by his former players. Let's just agree that he was not a great coach. Great coaches post winning records in bowls. Really great coaches win NC's. Also, Bo's record was padded by playing in the Big10 at a time when it was possibly weaker than it is now (I know, hard to believe). Just stepping on the field to start the season and he had 8 wins every year. Conversely, Notre Dame was regularly scheduling 5 ranked teams in the 70's and 80's - and winning National Championships. With his resources and schedules he should have accomplished a lot more.
 
scfanblue, you are correct. I overstated my case. Bo was not a loser. He posted a winning record and is very much respected by his former players. Let's just agree that he was not a great coach. Great coaches post winning records in bowls. Really great coaches win NC's. Also, Bo's record was padded by playing in the Big10 at a time when it was possibly weaker than it is now (I know, hard to believe). Just stepping on the field to start the season and he had 8 wins every year. Conversely, Notre Dame was regularly scheduling 5 ranked teams in the 70's and 80's - and winning National Championships. With his resources and schedules he should have accomplished a lot more.
Really, you should just stop these posts, you sound ridiculous, who in the hell would agree with you that is respected in college football. I bet not a single coach Notre Dame has had that is still living would agree with you. Not a single one, not even the morally corrupt and compromised Lou Holtz.

I'm forced to conclude you don't know a damn thing about college football, not a damn thing if you think Bo was not a great coach, a great man, a great leader. Do yourself a favor, order John Bacon's biography of Bo and get educated. John's an excellent writer and you'll learn a lot about something you don't know anything of. You'll find out for instance something I didn't know until recently that a number of his former coaches have won National Championships. Les Miles, Lloyd Carr, Bill McCartney all cut their teeth under Bo. There are others that I cannot remember. Graduation rates, winning percentages, All Americans, conference championships, several near misses at a MNC (undefeated in 71 regular season, one tie in 73, one tie and one 2 pt loss to #1 team in 85, one near miss FG in 88 vs ND), College and Pro Hall of Famers up the wazoo, shit, it just goes on and on and the more I type the more I'm convinced you're a pinhead.

Until you get your education, please, let me encourage you to find another posting home so you don't make a further public ass of yourself. Seriously, it's embarrassing and further lowers my estimation, if that were possible, of the ND fan base.

Bo was right...
 
Question for the Domer? How did Brian Kelly lose so many games to Rich Rod and Hoke? Your opinion and leave Bo out of it. He was dead at this point.

Just like he lost to some other average and bad teams since he's been at Notre Dame. Except for 2012 Kelly has under-performed with talent he's had available. He started off with a top 20 recruiting base and could not finish in the top 20. Now his average recruiting class is below 10 and he's only had one year finishing in the top 10. So it's pretty easy to see he has under-performed so far. He's keeping his job because 1) the three previous coaches were horrible, 2) 2012 season, 3) he has not posed a losing season and 4) recruiting is more than solid.

Never understood why RichRod was fired. if it wasn't for that Steven Threet incident he might have made it.
 
Never understood why RichRod was fired. if it wasn't for that Steven Threet incident he might have made it.

RR was let go at UM because he should not have been hired in the first place. His overall management of the football program and forcing his system on players that could not execute that type of scheme. This was done to stroke his ego and at the expense of the entire program.This does not even touch his complete failure at defense and special teams. He sucked in Ann Arbor and proved that he is NOT an elite college football coach. He cut his own throat so it didn't matter that he wasn't supposedly supported from certain people. He beat Brian Kelly during his time though. Arizona is a great place for him and he was a God in West Virginia despite his inability to win the big game. RR is no where near a Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, or Jim Harbaugh for that matter. He would have failed at OSU and even Alabama who tried to hire him before hiring Saban. Saban could quite possibly land in Texas next year.
 
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