Dear Spartan fans. So many painful losses by so many teams this

[Reality Man]

year...

UM, Duke, Ole Miss (today...did you see that?...geez).. Boston College, MInny, FSU.

That being said...all things being equal....which do you prefer...having a punter flub the game away, Minny coaches giving the game away or referees screwing you along with a dropped int or qb mistake.

Serious question. I think they all suck and is part of sport. You win some...you lose some. UM (IMO)...split between MSU and MInny and then MSU got hosed on some level...who knows what happens on 3rd down. I'd rather have won the MSU game but you get my point.


RM

 

[michigangoblue999]

Wow, you taunt MSU by bringing up our game????? This is the worst smack ever. Just stop.

 

[maelfan]

The refs hosed us vs. MSU long before the coaches botched our last punt play. Starting with Dyomonte's INT that never should have been overturned because Jabrill did not interefere on that play, to the targeting, to MSUs personal foul on our center on that last play even though we botched the protection.

 

[michigangoblue999]

Blake dropped the snap. Coaches didn't do that.

 

[Reality Man]

My smack was brilliant. It diminishes the game against UM. Read it again...brilliant.


RM

 

[Blue_J]

The refs hosed us vs. MSU long before the coaches botched our last punt play. Starting with Dyomonte's INT that never should have been overturned because Jabrill did not interefere on that play, to the targeting, to MSUs personal foul on our center on that last play even though we botched the protection.

Yep. The failure to call roughing the long snapper was about as incompetent as it gets. One of the easiest calls to make in the game, and a player safety issue so is supposed to be called every time.

 

[scfanblue]

The same crew that blew calls in last nights MSU/Nebraska game also called the UM/MSU game. They also blew a call in last years PSU/OSU OT game. They should be fired.

 

[ThatsMrSpartan2U]

year...

UM, Duke, Ole Miss (today...did you see that?...geez).. Boston College, MInny, FSU.

That being said...all things being equal....which do you prefer...having a punter flub the game away, Minny coaches giving the game away or referees screwing you along with a dropped int or qb mistake.

Serious question. I think they all suck and is part of sport. You win some...you lose some. UM (IMO)...split between MSU and MInny and then MSU got hosed on some level...who knows what happens on 3rd down. I'd rather have won the MSU game but you get my point.


RM

No problem, Reality Man. I wasn't one to strut and preen over the Michigan win. It was too easy to call MSU lucky and UM the opposite. It was just a colossal error one team made and the other was able to pounce on when there was no more time to overcome it. Same last night. Same with Duke game.
Coaches blow it (Minny). Players botch it up (Mich.). Referees too (MSU and Duke).
Errors happen all the time. They're unavoidable. Spartans have been whistling past the graveyard all year long. If they'd had a defense anywhere near as good as their last 2-3 years last nights outcome wouldn't have happened. So it goes. La dee da.
Spartans...........sadly got what they deserved. They played just poorly enough to let a blown call steal their season. One play....just a few ticks on the clock.....it's probably going to turn out that way for Michigan too....crushes a whole season.

Maybe not. Both of us still have a shot at the Buckeyes. Honestly, I think you guys have a much better shot at them than we do.....but in the end does any 2 loss team have a shot at the NCAA Final 4?

One of us has to get by OSU. My mantra now is, "Anybody but Meyer."

 

[Reality Man]

Thanks for the post...it was classy.

Unlike many UM fans...MSU won the game fair and square. If you have a player who drops the ball then you don't deserve to win. Happens all the time but the timing was obviously not good for UM.

I give UM credit for beating Minny...but they were a good coach and a 1/2 yard away from losing. Last night MSU dropped a tough int (great effort) and Nebraska went up the stinking field like MSU wasn't even playing defense. A dumb call/qb play by Cook although it would have been a tough fg.

One thing that gets lost is Nebraska was trying to give the game away with that kick off. It's amazing in college how many blunders there are on all sides. The ref's blow it all the time. Remember that game against Rutgers last year...that wasn't a catch?

These refs are intimidated by the environment. If that game was in EL...MSU gets the call. All these losses suck because humans are involved. Some are won and some are lost. All 3 of these games we are talking about were essentially lost which makes these games tough to take when you are on the wrong end.



RM

 

[tarun262]

Here's my take on this:

• Michigan against MSU - you can't blame anyone. You play the game for 60 minutes, not 59 minutes and 50 seconds so we lost the game fair and square.
• Michigan State against Nebraska - same thing, you can't blame the refs. Michigan State basically went into prevent defense in the 4th quarter. Forget the TD, how about the fact that Nebraska started at the 10 yard line and MSU gave up about 60 yards on just 2 plays!!! You play prevent defense you will lose all day long. And yes, Nebraska almost gave it back giving the ball to MSU at the 41 yard line. That might be one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. Make MSU go 60 yards, not 30 yards.

Calls generally go both ways in a game and for the most part instant replay does get things right now so you just have to play through the ups and downs. You can call holding on virtually every play. You can call clipping on every play. You can call pass interference on virtually every play. You play through as a team.

In all my years of watching college football, there really have only been 2 calls that have been completely botched where refs should have been fired after that game:

1. Michigan's loss to MSU when the clock decided to stay at 1 second for about 10 seconds. That was terrible.
2. Miami's miracle win against Duke where there were about 3 missed calls despite instant replay.

 

[Reality Man]

How about the ref who didn't call tripping right in front of him (Howard vs. MSU).

Don't tell Penn State fans...but UM has gotten the short end of the referee calls. How about UM vs. USC and Charles Whte?

Someone should ask a Penn State fan (the extreme anti-BT PSU fan) about this call? See PSU radical fan...it's not a conspiracy against you.

 

[James Whitey Bulger]

The same crew that blew calls in last nights MSU/Nebraska game also called the UM/MSU game. They also blew a call in last years PSU/OSU OT game. They should be fired.

Big Ten released statement saying the officials were right. Proper call was made. Good TD and good call by referees saying he was forced out.